The Footie (UK) Thread: 2006/07

[Captain Stu]

Yeah, I think Villa's sexability just when sky-high - one of the best regarded managers in the country plus a multi-billionaire owner.

[Bexster]

Lerner wants to build them up as a brand in the US. It's gonna be weird seeing Americans wander around in Villa shirts.

[EvilElvis]

Lerner wants to build them up as a brand in the US. It's gonna be weird seeing Americans wander around in Villa shirts.


It's weird seeing people wonder about in Glasgow in Villa shirts.

[EvilElvis]

Yeah, I think Villa's sexability just when sky-high - one of the best regarded managers in the country plus a multi-billionaire owner.


Just watch the Glory hunters claim to be life long fans now.

[Bexster]

Don't know if this has been posted before, but this is highly amusing...

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/3078.html

[EvilElvis]

Don't know if this has been posted before, but this is highly amusing...

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/3078.html


Gold!


Someone posted something similar earlier on.

[Bexster]

Gold!


Someone posted something similar earlier on.
I thought they might have done, but I watched that just now and laughed!

[EvilElvis]

I thought they might have done, but I watched that just now and laughed!


This is it - It's near the end.

this one's good too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlRNO9-VYXo&NR

[Bexster]

That was class :D

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Newcastle apparently a whisker away from completing the move for Gravesen.

The Kuyt deal has resurfaced too - he's been quoted as saying "I can replace Alan Shearer" or something similar.

[boxshapedheart]

Just watch the Glory hunters claim to be life long fans now.
Glory hunter! *points at Ollie*
Look at you jumping on the soccer ball bandwagon!
Bet you don't even know Villa originate from Brazil and play in grey and orange stripes... pfft.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

soon, every club will be owned by americans. and will start playing soccer ball.

except Millwall who'll continually be owned by someone with less money and business sense than Del Boy :(

[EvilElvis]

soon, every club will be owned by americans. and will start playing soccer ball.

except Millwall who'll continually be owned by someone with less money and business sense than Del Boy :(



You'll never be bought by Michael Knighton

[boxshapedheart]

This time next year, Ook, this time next year!

I'm glad we're not the only Americans now. Also don't think I've mentioned that I love Martin O'Neil yet. Always liked that fella - should be ace for Villa.

[boxshapedheart]

You'll never be bought by Michael Knighton
I read that as Michael Knight. I bet Ookie did too and he's prolly mid fantasy now with Michael Knight as the chairman.

[EvilElvis]

This time next year, Ook, this time next year!

I'm glad we're not the only Americans now. Also don't think I've mentioned that I love Martin O'Neil yet. Always liked that fella - should be ace for Villa.



But we aren't taking a risk.

Lerner is a billionaire and isn't risking the future on loans.



I still feel strange singing Hail Hail Martin O' Neil.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

This time next year, Ook, this time next year!



Sigh... Grandad - "...always said Del boy would become a Millionaire, then again he used to say Millwall would win the cup!"

never happened :(

[EvilElvis]

I read that as Michael Knight. I bet Ookie did too and he's prolly mid fantasy now with Michael Knight as the chairman.


Being a devout Man Utd fan, you should know who Micheal Knighton is.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I read that as Michael Knight. I bet Ookie did too and he's prolly mid fantasy now with Michael Knight as the chairman.

*dreams* huh... you bastard... you just ruined that for me! :mad:

[boxshapedheart]

Being a devout Man Utd fan, you should know who Micheal Knighton is.
:) I know of Knighton.

Just humoured me with the similar name.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Republic of Ireland boss Steve Staunton has escaped unhurt after a firearms incident at the team's hotel on Monday.

Reports suggest Staunton was confronted by an unidentified man brandishing a gun at the Portmarnock hotel where they team are staying ahead of Wednesday's international friendly with Holland.

The Irish Police have revealed they have arrested a man in connection with the incident.

The Football Association of Ireland confirmed an incident did take place earlier on Monday and revealed Staunton was safe and well.

A FAI statement read: "The Football Association of Ireland have confirmed that an incident took place outside the Republic of Ireland team hotel in Portmarnock earlier this evening.

"The matter is now being dealt with by the gardaí.

"The Republic of Ireland Manager Stephen Staunton is absolutely fine and looking forward to training tomorrow."

The news is a major shock for Staunton and the Irish team ahead of the friendly clash with Holland and questions are sure to be raised over security at the hotel.

[EvilElvis]

:) I know of Knighton.

Just humoured me with the similar name.

I remember he did a warm up with the team at Old Trafford...

Then he just vanished!



Similar name me me laugh too!

[Bexster]

Blimey :eek:

[Two-Bob Peeters]

did knighton also go on to buy another club? only to be found out again? Darlington or someone

[EvilElvis]

did knighton also go on to buy another club? only to be found out again? Darlington or someone

Carlisle

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Carlisle

that's the one.

Darlington were taken over by that safecracker guy

[Bexster]

that's the one.

Darlington were taken over by that safecracker guy
Darlington have just signed Julian Joachim

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Darlington have just signed Julian Joachim

wow, that's a blast from the past. he looked a bit good about... 8 years ago

[boxshapedheart]

Republic of Ireland boss Steve Staunton has escaped unhurt after a firearms incident at the team's hotel on Monday.

Reports suggest Staunton was confronted by an unidentified man brandishing a gun at the Portmarnock hotel where they team are staying ahead of Wednesday's international friendly with Holland.

The Irish Police have revealed they have arrested a man in connection with the incident.

The Football Association of Ireland confirmed an incident did take place earlier on Monday and revealed Staunton was safe and well.

A FAI statement read: "The Football Association of Ireland have confirmed that an incident took place outside the Republic of Ireland team hotel in Portmarnock earlier this evening.

"The matter is now being dealt with by the gardaí.

"The Republic of Ireland Manager Stephen Staunton is absolutely fine and looking forward to training tomorrow."

The news is a major shock for Staunton and the Irish team ahead of the friendly clash with Holland and questions are sure to be raised over security at the hotel.
:eek: Bloody hell.

[EvilElvis]

wow, that's a blast from the past. he looked a bit good about... 8 years ago


That was when he played fro Villa.


I thought he was dead now.

[EvilElvis]

Republic of Ireland boss Steve Staunton has escaped unhurt after a firearms incident at the team's hotel on Monday.

Reports suggest Staunton was confronted by an unidentified man brandishing a gun at the Portmarnock hotel where they team are staying ahead of Wednesday's international friendly with Holland.

The Irish Police have revealed they have arrested a man in connection with the incident.

The Football Association of Ireland confirmed an incident did take place earlier on Monday and revealed Staunton was safe and well.

A FAI statement read: "The Football Association of Ireland have confirmed that an incident took place outside the Republic of Ireland team hotel in Portmarnock earlier this evening.

"The matter is now being dealt with by the gardaí.

"The Republic of Ireland Manager Stephen Staunton is absolutely fine and looking forward to training tomorrow."

The news is a major shock for Staunton and the Irish team ahead of the friendly clash with Holland and questions are sure to be raised over security at the hotel.


According to SSN - It's not the first time there's been a fire arm incident at the hotel when the team has been staying at it.


The security is very lax so the fans and media can mingle with the players.


Think that may be getting changed.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

http://www.goalkeepersaredifferent.com/keeper/injuries.htm

In 1975 Manchester United keeper Alex Stepney managed to dislocate his jaw while shouting at his defenders during a game against Birmingham City. Former England midfielder Brian Greenhoff replaced Stepney between the sticks and kept a clean sheet!

Wales and Middlesbrough goalkeeper Mark Crossley was forced to spend seven weeks in bed after landing on his backside whilst taking a goal kick during a pre-season friendly in Finland in 1997.

In 1894, Queen's Park goalkeeper Andrew Baird found himself in an embarrassing situation during a Scottish Cup tie after getting his hand caught in the net. He could only watch as Rangers centre forward David Boyd scored for The Gers.

[Captain Stu]

Republic of Ireland boss Steve Staunton has escaped unhurt after a firearms incident at the team's hotel on Monday.

Reports suggest Staunton was confronted by an unidentified man brandishing a gun at the Portmarnock hotel where they team are staying ahead of Wednesday's international friendly with Holland.

The Irish Police have revealed they have arrested a man in connection with the incident.

The Football Association of Ireland confirmed an incident did take place earlier on Monday and revealed Staunton was safe and well.

A FAI statement read: "The Football Association of Ireland have confirmed that an incident took place outside the Republic of Ireland team hotel in Portmarnock earlier this evening.

"The matter is now being dealt with by the gardaí.

"The Republic of Ireland Manager Stephen Staunton is absolutely fine and looking forward to training tomorrow."

The news is a major shock for Staunton and the Irish team ahead of the friendly clash with Holland and questions are sure to be raised over security at the hotel.

Fooking hell!!

Important footballing question:

1. Why do people think Thomas Gravesen is good? He's fucking shit. Not just "average" or "bad"... he's absolutely pissing chronic.

[weeniebeenie]

Fooking hell!!

Important footballing question:

1. Why do people think Thomas Gravesen is good? He's fucking shit. Not just "average" or "bad"... he's absolutely pissing chronic.

I think its the Vinny Jones thing. When people can't buy a good aggressive defensive midfielder (e.g. Roy Keane), they just go for mental ones that scare the flair players.

[Captain Stu]

Hahaha, "mental"... that is just the best tag for him. :D

[Luke]

When does the soccer start ?

[Captain Stu]

When does the soccer start ?

The Championship kicked off about 2 weeks ago and the Premiership kicks off this saturday!!! :D

[tom65]

Apparently the guy who threatened him has a "history of mental illness" and also the guy was a model sub-Uzi.


I was wondering why anyone in Ireland would threaten Stan Staunton. He's a national treasure.

[Captain Stu]

Apparently the guy who threatened him has a "history of mental illness"

So, Roy Keane comes out of retirement at last. :D

[Luke]

The Championship kicked off about 2 weeks ago and the Premiership kicks off this saturday!!! :D

Go the Gunners!

Do they have a chance ?

[tom65]

So, Roy Keane comes out of retirement at last. :D


Zing!

[Captain Stu]

Go the Gunners!

Do they have a chance ?

They have a reasonable chance - good young attacking first team, strengthened by the signing of Czech midfielder and Captain - Tomas Rosicky - but could be suffering a bit of ill-feeling in the dressing room because of constant doubts over the futures of both Ashley Cole and Jose Antonio Reyes.

Also, they lost a couple of key experienced players over the summer in Dennis Bergkamp (legend), Sol Campbell (Judas) and Robert Pires (French poof with a shit beard) which could be felt this season.

[Renegades of funk 8]

Robert Pires (French poof with a shit beard)

i thought that was just drawn on :D

[EvilElvis]

Arsenal's Jose Antonio Reyes has revealed that Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has cleared the way for the winger to join Real Madrid this week. (Various)

Newcastle want Wigan striker Henri Camara - only days before the two clubs meet in their Premiership opener. (Daily Mirror)

Newcastle will tell Inter Milan to drop the £10m asking price for Obafemi Martins because the Magpies are looking into rumours from Nigeria that the striker is possibly six years older than his reported age of 21. (The Sun)

Manchester City defender Sylvain Distin is under pressure to give a quick decision over a possible £4m move to Middlesbrough. (Daily Mirror)

Wigan boss Paul Jewell has warned Tottenham that the price of Pascal Chimbonda may rise if Spurs do not meet the £6m valuation of the defender before the transfer deadline on 31 August. (The Independent)


OTHER GOSSIP
Chelsea midfielder Michael Ballack faces a race against time to be fit for Sunday's Premiership opener with Manchester City after it emerged the hip injury that led to him limping out of last weekend's Community Shield game has been a problem for some time. (Daily Mirror)

Meanwhile, Ballack believes goals from fellow Chelsea new boy Andriy Shevchenko will lead Chelsea to a third Premiership title in a row. (The Sun)


Randy Lerner has promised Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill a £50m transfer kitty and a five-year contract if the American billionaire takes over the club. (Various)

Former England captain David Beckham, who was dropped from his national squad for Wednesday's friendly with Greece, has been told by Real Madrid that they want him to stay and are keen for contract talks to begin. (The Sun)

Referee Graham Poll, who was sent home early from the World Cup after booking Croatia's Josip Simunic three times before sending him off, will take charge of Arsenal's first Premiership game at their new Emirates Stadium - against Aston Villa on Saturday. (Various)

Falkirk defender Craig Ireland, who missed the final three months of last season, will be sidelined for at least two months after a second knee operation. (Daily Record)

Reading boss Steve Coppell has ordered the Reading boo-boys to lay off contract rebel Steve Sidwell, who was jeered by his own fans during Saturday's friendly with Feyenoord. (The Sun)


FUNNIES
Plymouth boss Ian Holloway has vowed to stand a £2,000 round of drinks as a thank you to the 700 fans who made the 805-mile round trip to Sunderland on Saturday. He said: "Anyone who travelled up there please send me a letter. I would love to buy you a drink."

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Newcastle will tell Inter Milan to drop the £10m asking price for Obafemi Martins because the Magpies are looking into rumours from Nigeria that the striker is possibly six years older than his reported age of 21. (The Sun)

hahaha, africans that don't know their age = legendary

there was a guy back in primary school called Lanre, at '10' years old he was 5" 11' :D

[Bud]

Reyes should go with Cole, bring in Ribery and Gallas. Sorted.

[rob3000]

6 years, how can no one know he's 6 years older than everyone thought he was.

He looks young.

[Captain Stu]

Ahaha, lying about his age? What a woman.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Ahaha, lying about his age? What a woman.

the thing is it's not lying, some kids from poorer countries just don't know how old they are!

[Captain Stu]

It's probably because of the AIDS. It ravages the brains you know. :(

Oh yeah, other news story that may be of some importance:

West Ham agree a deal with Norwich for keeper, Robert Green - could only be in the region of £2M.

Now that confuses me, he's turned down moves to be Number 1 at much bigger clubs than West Ham, :confused:

[Captain Stu]

This is what we all want to see come the end of the season. (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/images4/14aug_7_300.jpg) :D

[boxshapedheart]

haha, that's ace.... lying about his age.

This is what we all want to see come the end of the season. (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/images4/14aug_7_300.jpg) :D
s'not loading for me. Might be my pc. :(

Ach well don't wanna give liverpoolfc.tv a hit anyhoo!

Robert Pires (French poof with a shit beard)
If Pires ever had a love tryst with a horse - the end result would be Ruuuuuud + a gay beard.

[Captain Stu]

s'not loading for me. Might be my pc. :(

Nevermind, I put it on your MySpace too. :D

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Now that confuses me, he's turned down moves to be Number 1 at much bigger clubs than West Ham, :confused:

yeah but west ham are great, they won us the world cup y'know... :rolleyes:

[boxshapedheart]

Nevermind, I put it on your MySpace too. :D
Aha zat worked! :D hehe fatpard. he has visible pantyline indent on his hip.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Aha zat worked! :D hehe fatpard. he has visible pantyline indent on his hip.

lolz :D he does as well

[Captain Stu]

That's strange, Fatpard always seemed like a lacy thong sort of "guy" what with his armpit shaving thing. :confused:

[boxshapedheart]

That's strange, Fatpard always seemed like a lacy thong sort of "guy" what with his armpit shaving thing. :confused:
Speaking of shaving, Stu did you see John Terry's first advert as el capitano during half time on sunday? It was well good!!

[Captain Stu]

Speaking of shaving, Stu did you see John Terry's first advert as el capitano during half time on sunday? It was well good!!

I didn't... but I'm guessing it was shave-related?

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I didn't... but I'm guessing it was shave-related?

It's official, shaving/razor adverts are the gayest adverts you can possibly get

[boxshapedheart]

yup, King of Shaves was the name of the product and it was a nice close up of Terry's face while he went on about "being a king". You're in for a treat when you do see it.

[Captain Stu]

Oh lord, it sounds gayer than Graeme Le Saux bumming Dale Winton. :(

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Oh lord, it sounds gayer than Graeme Le Saux bumming Dale Winton. :(

here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ESq2vO_I0)

*dies a little inside*

[Captain Stu]

Oh dear God, why would you subject me to this?

Cunts.

[boxshapedheart]

Thankfully my speakers are disabled. Last thing anyone needs is that before lunch.

[Captain Stu]

Dean Ashton's gone to hospital with an ankle injury.

Apparently Gerrard will start for England tomorrow on the right-wing. :rolleyes:

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Dean Ashton's gone to hospital with an ankle injury.

Apparently Gerrard will start for England tomorrow on the right-wing. :rolleyes:

wow, gutting for Ashton, bit late for a replacement too...

[Captain Stu]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I'm watching the England press conference with John Terry and as he's trying to answer, this recorded message keeps playing loudly in the background asking for the safety officer or something. :D

Team to face Greece:

Robinson

A Cole
Neville
Ferdinand
Terry

Gerrard
Lampard
Downing
Hargreaves

Crouch
Defoe

Most of that seems pretty standard to me... but why the FUCK play Gerrard wide-right? For the love of God man, don't be such a pussy.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Is that official?

i'm happy with that, it's only a friendly, may as well give gerrard a go on the right see what happens, although yeah, realisticly Lampard should have been dropped

[Captain Stu]

Yeah, it's been annouonced today at the press conference.

It should be Gerrard and Hargreaves in the middle and Lennon on the right, fuck Fatpard right off.

[Captain Stu]

.. aaaahhhh what McLaren has said is that at times they want 2 wide players and at time they will only want one so Downing and Gerrard will apparently be alternating on coming inside and playing more behind the forwards.

That sounds like a good plan.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Yeah, it's been annouonced today at the press conference.

It should be Gerrard and Hargreaves in the middle and Lennon on the right, fuck Fatpard right off.

Yeah definitely, unless this is his offical last chance saloon.

good that downing will get a proper start, because we need to know what we can do on that side if Joe Cole is injured.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

.. aaaahhhh what McLaren has said is that at times they want 2 wide players and at time they will only want one so Downing and Gerrard will apparently be alternating on coming inside and playing more behind the forwards.

That sounds like a good plan.

innnnteresting. and that would work even better with Cole on the left too....

[Captain Stu]

I'm not at all surprised that Downing's playing - McLaren probably knows better than anyone what he's capable of and that's gonna shake Joe Cole right up too.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Steven O'Reid given captaincy for RoI, nice one

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Thomas Gravesen

People who think he's shit are confused about who he actually is.

He's NOT a defensive midfielder. He can't tackle for peanuts, yet because he's big and ugly lookig teams keep playing him as a defensive midfielder.

He's actually an attacking midfielder. He's a decent passer, is good off the ball, has amazing strength on the ball and a hell of a shot.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Thomas Gravesen

People who think he's shit are confused about who he actually is.

He's NOT a defensive midfielder. He can't tackle for peanuts, yet because he's big and ugly lookig teams keep playing him as a defensive midfielder.

He's actually an attacking midfielder. He's a decent passer, is good off the ball, has amazing strength on the ball and a hell of a shot.

i like him

[Bexster]

Dean Ashton's broken his ankle. Don't expect to see him playing this side of christmas now. Poor bloke.

[Wish_Master2100]

Some pictures from the Community Sheild;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Wish_Master2100/45b78eb7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Wish_Master2100/a4911cc6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Wish_Master2100/542d784d.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Wish_Master2100/74542095.jpg

But more importantly;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Wish_Master2100/830da54f.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Wish_Master2100/9a4ad9c8.jpg

and of course;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/Wish_Master2100/24dbaac1.jpg

[Two-Bob Peeters]

"Romans Taxes Pay My Giro!"

[Wish_Master2100]

"Romans Taxes Pay My Giro!"

And their train ticket, ticket to the game, the shirt they were wearing etc.

[Captain Stu]

I feel as sorry for West Ham as I do for Ashton, the FA owe them some money now.

[Captain Stu]

THEO WALCOTT SCORED FOR ENGLAND!!!*























* England Under 21's that is. :D

[Two-Bob Peeters]

it was a good header for a small lad too

[Captain Stu]

Twas indeed.

[Captain Stu]

Oh yeah... and "LOLZ" at Rooney and Scholes... both their 3-match bans stand so they will miss the 2nd, 3rd and 4th games of the season as a result of their pre-season red cards.

[boxshapedheart]

Yes, not happy about Roon and Scholes. They miss the Tottenham game now. Bloody pre-season. :(

[Two-Bob Peeters]

i don't agree with players being sent off in pre season.

i've seen before where referees go up to the manager and tell him to sub off the offender instead, that seems a lot more reasonable

[Captain Stu]

Rooney's is questionable - even I in my infinite hatred of the potato-headed cunt can see that he was watching the ball and had no idea that the guy was there. It was a yellow card for a stray arm, not a straight red - that implies intent to hurt the guy.

Scholes you can't argue with, it was just a classic Scholes tackle - late, wild, pointless and dangerous.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Oh yeah, i agree with Scholes' some things will never change :D

[boxshapedheart]

Rooney's is questionable - even I in my infinite hatred of the potato-headed cunt can see that he was watching the ball and had no idea that the guy was there. It was a yellow card for a stray arm, not a straight red - that implies intent to hurt the guy.

This is why I can't understand how he's getting a 3 match. You know there'll be some arse getting away with a violent tackle this weekend. And yet Rooney gets the ban.

i don't agree with players being sent off in pre season.

i've seen before where referees go up to the manager and tell him to sub off the offender instead, that seems a lot more reasonable
Yeah I don't like it crossing over to affect the domestic games. Unless it's a dangerous tackle - in that case it shouldn't matter where you're playing - the fact that another player's career or season is being threatened should mean you get punished accordingly.

Oh yeah, i agree with Scholes' some things will never change :D
Yeah, it's part of him. I often wonder why he still tries tackling at all... guess it strikes fear into the opponent when the ginger one takes a lunge.

[Captain Stu]

It's because it's Rooney, he's done his damage already and he's gonna carry the tag of "THUGGISH CUNT" with him for the rest of his career, he'll ALWAYS be assumed to be doing the worst - no matter how accidental it may be.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

It's because it's Rooney, he's done his damage already and he's gonna carry the tag of "THUGGISH CUNT" with him for the rest of his career, he'll ALWAYS be assumed to be doing the worst - no matter how accidental it may be.

it's not fair on him really, although i'd bet a lot of money that'd he'd do something to justify that reputation, in the next few years or so

[boxshapedheart]

... le sigh. ah well.

Watched some of Wales Bulgaria friendly. Giggsy lookin good for free kicks. :)

[Captain Stu]

It's NOT fair, quite right, but that's what happens when you play with the raw aggression that he does and with seemingly no way of capping it.

He wouldn't be in this mess if he'd learned some restraint, I still reckon the United move came way too soon. He needed more time to learn to be a professional before the massive pressure of a multi-million pound move to a title-challenging club.

[sunnydalehighdropout]

It's NOT fair, quite right, but that's what happens when you play with the raw aggression that he does and with seemingly no way of capping it.

He wouldn't be in this mess if he'd learned some restraint, I still reckon the United move came way too soon. He needed more time to learn to be a professional before the massive pressure of a multi-million pound move to a title-challenging club.
Still, he could learn a thing or about keeping his temper from Alan Smith, once he recovers.

Smiffy seems to have kept his hat on for the past couple of seasons.

[Captain Stu]

Alan Smith's still a cunt, he just became 1.7% less of one.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I reckon a fit Alan Smith could be key for United this season

[boxshapedheart]

the aggression is important in his game. Keane was the same, if not worse, and tamed it. and yeah smiffy has toned down too.

Smith is ace. :)

[Captain Stu]

the aggression is important in his game. Keane was the same, if not worse, and tamed it. and yeah smiffy has toned down too.

It is, but he needs to channel his aggression so his runs stay strong but he always... in my sexy opinion... looks like he's ready to snap and tear someones head off - in a bad way, not a good way.

[boxshapedheart]

It is, but he needs to channel his aggression so his runs stay strong but he always... in my sexy opinion... looks like he's ready to snap and tear someones head off - in a bad way, not a good way.
he doesnt actually do it much though, only when he isn't playing great so can't relieve his frustration through the footy and just goes at players like a bull. usually takes the anger out on the ball to my joy.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

off topic.

predictions start tomorrow, give people time to get them in before the season starts :)

[Captain Stu]

off topic.

predictions start tomorrow, give people time to get them in before the season starts :)

Do you still have the predictions for the league table we made around World Cup time? I would like to change mine in view of certain changes at Aston Villa.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Do you still have the predictions for the league table we made around World Cup time? I would like to change mine in view of certain changes at Aston Villa.

i sure do, i'm sad like that. i'll post them at work tomorrow. unless you can be arsed to trawl through the threads of course :)

[sunnydalehighdropout]

Do you still have the predictions for the league table we made around World Cup time? I would like to change mine in view of certain changes at Aston Villa.

Same here. Now that O'Neill is in charge, they won't go down.

I'd even risk a top 10 finish.

[boxshapedheart]

predictions means FOOTBALL! :D it won't feel real until I hear the first whistle go on Saturday.

[Captain Stu]

i sure do, i'm sad like that. i'll post them at work tomorrow. unless you can be arsed to trawl through the threads of course :)

I'll just re-do mine if that's ok:

01. Chelsea
02. Liverpool
03. Manchester United
04. Arsenal
05. Tottenham Hotspur
06. Newcastle United
07. Aston Villa
08. Bolton Wanderers
09. Manchester City
10. Everton
11. Blackburn Rovers
12. West Ham United
13. Portsmouth
14. Wigan Athletic
15. Fulham
16. Middlesbrough
17. Sheffield United
18. Charlton Athletic
19. Reading
20. Watford

[Two-Bob Peeters]

predictions means FOOTBALL! :D it won't feel real until I hear the first whistle go on Saturday.

try being 3 games into the season already, with 1 point and a goal difference of -6 :)

[boxshapedheart]

try being 3 games into the season already, with 1 point and a goal difference of -6 :)
....I'd rather not. :)
you're just giving yourselves a challenge. yeah, that's it. :cool:

[weeniebeenie]

Can I play? If not here is my guess anyway.

01. Liverpool
02. Chelsea
03. Manchester Utd
04. Arsenal
05. Tottenham Hotspur
06. Newcastle United
07. Everton
08. West Ham United
09. Aston Villa
10. Blackburn Rovers
11. Bolton Wanderers
12. Wigan Athletic
13. Portsmouth
14. Middlesbrough
15. Manchester City
16. Reading
17. Charlton Athletic
18. Fulham
19. Sheffield United
20. Watford

I think Villa will do ok. If the Lerner deal is going to take a few weeks then I can't see them buying anyone before the transfer deadline. Therefore, O'Neill (while great) will have a pretty shit squad until January.

Reading are going to stay up with Leroy Lita (ex City!) scroing shitloads! If anyone then wants to buy him that would be great as I've heard we have 40% of next sale!

[EvilElvis]

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. Manchester United
4. Liverpool
5. Tottenham
6. Blackburn
7. Aston Villa
8. Manchester City
9. Blackburn
10. Fulham
11. West Ham
12. Everton
13. Newcastle
14. Charlton
15. Portsmouth
16. Wigan
17. Reading
18. Middlesborough
19. Sheffield United
20. Watford

[EvilElvis]

This looks quite interesting (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/5237764.stm)



Rumour in Glasgow


Juan Pablo Angel for Celtic.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Only changed mine a little bit

1st: Chelsea
2nd: Man Utd
3rd: Liverpool
4th: Arsenal
5th: Newcastle
6th: Spurs
7th: Bolton
8th: Blackburn
9th: Everton
10th: Aston Villa
11th: Man City
12th: Portsmouth
13th :West Ham
14th: Middlesborough
15th: Reading
16th: Charlton
17th: Wigan
18th: Fulham
19th: Watford
20th: Sheff Utd

[Captain Stu]

There's a helluva lot of hype around Southampton left-back, Gareth Bale, at the moment - just been a nice little snippet about him on SSN, two goals already this season... both from free-kicks... and the club insist it won't become a Theo Walcott scenario again as Bale has actually signed his pro papers already.

I'm-a try to watch some Southampton games, see if he lives up to ze hype.

Also, re: Dean Ashton again... McLaren had told him that he was set to start tonight, 100% certain, alongside Defoe. GUTTED LAD!!!

[Two-Bob Peeters]

OLLIE! another rangers reject - Bob Malcolm

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/68003.html

i have no idea who he is :D

[Two-Bob Peeters]

3rd conec. post

Reading are poised to sign Cameroon star Andre Bikey on a season-long loan, despite his sending-off against Swedish side Orgryte IS. (Daily Star)

Feyenoord and Holland striker Dirk Kuyt is ready to snub Liverpool in favour of Newcastle. (Daily Star)

Derby have beaten West Brom in the race to sign Arsenal striker Arturo Lupoli on loan. (Daily Star)

Martin O'Neill wants to use striker Juan Pablo Angel as bait to land Celtic's Stilian Petrov. (Daily Mirror)

Southampton have offered Fulham's former French defender Martin Djetou, who was released at the end of last season, a one-week trial. (Daily Star)

Dutch defender Andre Ooijer has gone on strike at PSV Eindhoven in a bid to force through his move to Premiership side Blackburn. (Daily Mirror)

Barnsley's bid for midfielder Lee Williamson has been rejected by Rotherham. (Daily Star)

Bolton are in talks with Spanish striker Diego Tristan about a move from Deportivo La Coruna. (Daily Mirror)

Manchester City are considering a bid for Tottenham winger Andy Reid, although they may be unwilling to meet the £3m asking price. (The Independent)

Newcastle are ready to sign Fulham's Dutch international striker Collins John for £5m. (The Guardian)

Thomas Gravesen will tell Celtic in the next few days if he is willing to join them from Real Madrid. (Daily Record)

Rangers want to unload four players in order to sign Bosnian defender Sasa Papac this week. (Daily Record)

Manuel Fernandes is on the verge of joining Portsmouth from Portuguese side Benfica for £8.5m. (The Times)


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OTHER GOSSIP
Ashley Cole's autobiography will be temporarily shelved if he is forced to stay at the club. (The Sun)

Sheffield United striker Steven Kabba could be out for six weeks with a hamstring injury. (Daily Star)


Back to top

FUNNIES
New England skipper John Terry wants to make new players sing in front of the rest of the squad. (The Sun)

Wycombe are to be fined £50 after they had to wear Bristol Rovers' away kit last week. (Daily Express)

Thx Plz

[Bexster]

try being 3 games into the season already, with 1 point and a goal difference of -6 :)
I prefer 2 games in with 4 points... :D

I actually got down to St. James Park last night to watch us against Forest Green (So I missed Theo's goal) - I've remembered how easy it is to support a Prem/Championship team, as opposed to a conference team. The first half was terrible - we only scored because their keeper made one hell of a mistake and came for a ball outside the area on the left and missed completely. Second half was better, hit the crossbar and had a chance cleared off the line. We deserved it, but the football is always pants in comparison. But we had 3,500 down there last night. Not bad for a conference side. We had the best average crowd last season by miles.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I love watching Non-League football. :)

My dad always used to take me to watch Welling united or Fisher Athletic games when Millwall was away, it was a lot of fun :) the quality may not be there, but the determination sure is and that's good enough for me!

[Bexster]

I love watching Non-League football. :)

My dad always used to take me to watch Welling united or Fisher Athletic games when Millwall was away, it was a lot of fun :) the quality may not be there, but the determination sure is and that's good enough for me!
I love going down - it's a pity I live too far away and can't do it often. Exeter have employed their normal strategy of getting the ball in defense, hoofing it downfield, and then watching while the opposition bring it back to them in defense to do it all again. It's thrilling stuff :D But I love Conference football. It's a heart attack waiting to happen sometimes, but it's close to grassroots, and it's fun.

[tom65]

The Ireland - Holland match is actually going to be the worse match ever.


Given, Harte, Dunne, Duff and Keane are all out of the squad.


Oh dear.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

The Ireland - Holland match is actually going to be the worse match ever.


Given, Harte, Dunne, Duff and Keane are all out of the squad.


Oh dear.

but Steven O'Reid is the captain!!
:D

[tom65]

but Steven O'Reid is the captain!!
:D


May I repeat?


Oh dear...

[Captain Stu]

Damien Duff? Injured? Never!!! *cough*

[Bexster]

Damien Duff? Injured? Never!!! *cough*
Does he play football does he? I forget...

[Two-Bob Peeters]

PREDICTIONS!!

same format as last year, although i'll be posting the table in weeks. starting on a saturday

first up are the weekend fixtures, then when those games are done i'll post the weekday fixtures. and after those, the table will be up :)

Saturday 19th August
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Draw)
Everton v Watford (Everton)
Newcastle v Wigan (Newcastle)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Blackburn)
Reading v Middlesbrough (Draw)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (Draw)
Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (Man Utd)

remember, your best chance of winning is by entering as many weeks as possible. although i have done a Predictions/Correct % as a "goal difference" if you like :)

good luck, fuckers

[Captain Stu]

Saturday 19th August
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Spurs Win)
Everton v Watford (Everton)
Newcastle v Wigan (Newcastle)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Draw)
Reading v Middlesbrough (Reading)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (West Ham)

Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (Man Utd)

[tom65]

Saturday 19th August
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Spurs)
Everton v Watford (Everton)
Newcastle v Wigan (Newcastle)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Portsmouth)
Reading v Middlesbrough (Draw)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (West Ham)

Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (Man Utd)

[Captain Stu]

Does he play football does he? I forget...

Allegedly, shame really... I hear he's pretty fucking awesome if he's fit.

[Bud]

Saturday 19th August
Arsenal v Aston Villa (arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (bolton)
Everton v Watford (everton)
Newcastle v Wigan (draw)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (blackburn)
Reading v Middlesbrough (reading)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (west ham)
Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (man utd)

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

Saturday 19th August
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal Win)
Bolton v Tottenham (Spurs Win)
Everton v Watford (Everton Win)
Newcastle v Wigan (Newcastle Win)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Draw)
Reading v Middlesbrough (Reading Win)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool Win)
West Ham v Charlton (Charlton Win)
Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea Win)
Man Utd v Fulham (Man Utd Win)

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Sorry, i have to piss my pants right about now because birmingham bought the mighty Gary McSheffrey from coventry for £4.25m!! :eek:

what the fuck is bruce thinking? that's nearly 3 times the price Tim Cahill went for!

[Cal2319]

Sorry, i have to piss my pants right about now because birmingham bought the mighty Gary McSheffrey from coventry for £4.25m!! :eek:

what the fuck is bruce thinking? that's nearly 3 times the price Tim Cahill went for!Bruce is thinking 'The Price is Right' :rolleyes: Brucey Bonus

[Captain Stu]

Steve Bruce is an idiot.

[Captain Stu]

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=410190&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=2&title=United+offer+for+Hargreaves

England midfielder Owen Hargreaves says he is weighing up a lucrative offer for his services from Manchester United.

The Bayern Munich man is expected to team up with Frank Lampard at the heart of The Three Lions' midfield for the friendly against Greece on Wednesday, but has domestic concerns to consider as well.

He has only just signed a contract extension with the Bundesliga giants, but has always wanted to prove himself in England.

It has now emerged that Sir Alex Ferguson has made a concrete offer for the Canadian-born player and Hargreaves is mulling over whether to make a long-awaited move to The Premiership.

"The offer from Manchester United is fantastic," Hargreaves told Sport Bild.

"Particularly as an England international, it is of interest and you never know if such an opportunity will arise again.

"Now is the time to take the next step to develop even further."
With the transfer deadline at the end of the month fast approaching, Ferguson had been tipped to bring in Villarreal's Marcos Senna, but the deal is thought to have stalled on the £8 million asking price for the midfielder.
The Red Devils have therefore turned to Hargreaves to join injured £18.6 million man Michael Carrick at the club.

Munich meanwhile, insist that the 25-year-old will remain at the Allianz Arena for the remainder of his contract.

"I have just spoken with [general manager] Uli Hoeness and he is absolutely clear that selling Owen Hargreaves is not an issue," Bayern press officer Markus Horwick stated.

"I think what Mr Hoeness says is enough to end any speculation.
"Owen Hargreaves will be staying with us for the remaining four years on his contract."

Having lost Michael Ballack already this summer, the German champions seem prepared to dig their heels in to hang on to the key central midfielder and United may now have to concentrate their search for a midfielder further afield.

Interesting...

Also, West Ham have signed Robert Green from Norwich for a fee which could reach £2M.

[EvilElvis]

OLLIE! another rangers reject - Bob Malcolm

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/68003.html

i have no idea who he is :D


At the end of the season your gonna wish you didn't know who he was.


You know how crap players get a cult following for at least trying to make an effort, Malcolm makes an effort, but he is still crap. And hated by Rangers fans.

In my life I have only seen one Rangers fan with Malcolm's name on the back of the shirt. No-one believed me when I told them.


He should never have worn a Rangers shirt after signing a fans autograph FTP.

[EvilElvis]

Saturday 19th August
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Draw)
Everton v Watford (Everton)
Newcastle v Wigan (Wigan)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Portsmouth)
Reading v Middlesbrough (Draw)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (Draw)

Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (Man Utd)

[Two-Bob Peeters]

At the end of the season your gonna wish you didn't know who he was.


You know how crap players get a cult following for at least trying to make an effort, Malcolm makes an effort, but he is still crap. And hated by Rangers fans.

In my life I have only seen one Rangers fan with Malcolm's name on the back of the shirt. No-one believed me when I told them.


He should never have worn a Rangers shirt after signing a fans autograph FTP.

sounds like he'll be Millwall through and through

[EvilElvis]

sounds like he'll be Millwall through and through


Apparently he was/is shagging Miss Scotland.


Most of Scotland was stunned that he could pull. He struggles to make a pass to a team mate.


Other Rangers news, we've signed another Man Utd reserve Phil Bardsley on loan.

[Bexster]

Saturday 19th August
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Spurs)
Everton v Watford (Draw)
Newcastle v Wigan (Draw)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Blackburn)
Reading v Middlesbrough (Draw)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (West Ham)

Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (Draw)

[Wish_Master2100]

Saturday 19th August
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Spurs)
Everton v Watford (Watford)
Newcastle v Wigan (Wigan)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Draw)
Reading v Middlesbrough (Boro)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (West Ham)

Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (United)

[Wish_Master2100]

I had 4 tickets for tonights England game.

[Captain Stu]

Ahahahaha, what a comedy miss by Robben! :D Useless cock.

[Bexster]

Finally Lumpard scores only a month and a half late...

[EvilElvis]

Finally Lumpard scores only a month and a half late...


Kyriagos isn't playing. :(

[Bexster]

Kyriagos isn't playing. :(
I don't really think the greek team are playing are they? It's like they haven't really turned up.

Lawrenson obviously wasn't watching Euro 2004 - he stated the Greeks were very professional in their tournament. So he didn't watch them cheat their way through then.

[EvilElvis]

I don't really think the greek team are playing are they? It's like they haven't really turned up.

Lawrenson obviously wasn't watching Euro 2004 - he stated the Greeks were very professional in their tournament. So he didn't watch them cheat their way through then.


They made FP Ronaldo cry like the bitch he is.


So I have to applaud them for that at least

[Bexster]

They made FP Ronaldo cry like the bitch he is.


So I have to applaud them for that at least
Yes, true.

So 4-0 at half time. I know it's a friendly, but this is going quite well.

[EvilElvis]

Yes, true.

So 4-0 at half time. I know it's a friendly, but this is going quite well.



Fucking hell!


I left at 1-0 and you informed me that Lumplard has scored


who else scored?

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I don't really think the greek team are playing are they? It's like they haven't really turned up.

Lawrenson obviously wasn't watching Euro 2004 - he stated the Greeks were very professional in their tournament. So he didn't watch them cheat their way through then.

They didn't cheat! they fully deserved to win that Trophy! no other team was as organised as them, and at the end of the day, they beat the teams they needed to beat.
however they're ucking aweful tonight.

also.

yay Crouchie :D <3

[rob3000]

Terry got the first, and Crouch got the third and fourth.

[Bexster]

Fucking hell!


I left at 1-0 and you informed me that Lumplard has scored


who else scored?
Crouch has scored twice. It's a walkover.

They didn't cheat! they fully deserved to win that Trophy! no other team was as organised as them, and at the end of the day, they beat the teams they needed to beat.
however they're ucking aweful tonight.
My clear memories of at least the group stages of Greece were a team that playacted, timewasted, and in particular not kicking out the ball when opposition was down. It stopped by the knockout stages, but they were lucky to get that far.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Bah, i feel some horrific Anti Hellenic views here!, you racist! :)

[Bexster]

Bah, i feel some horrific Anti Hellenic views here!, you racist! :)
Damn those Greeks and their... greekness... um... yeah. That's it.;)

[EvilElvis]

Damn those Greeks and their... greekness... um... yeah. That's it.;)

They gave us Kebabs.

The only food you ever fancy eating when pissed.


It's time they got something in return.

[Bexster]

They gave us Kebabs.

The only food you ever fancy eating when pissed.


It's time they got something in return.
I'm a chips and curry sauce type of drunk. I never did like kebabs.

Whatever good football they did have has deserted them since the championships, that is certain.

[EvilElvis]

I'm a chips and curry sauce type of drunk. I never did like kebabs.

Whatever good football they did have has deserted them since the championships, that is certain.


I think they've got a new coach in.


First time the current European Champions haven't gone to the World Cup happened this year.

[Bexster]

I think they've got a new coach in.


First time the current European Champions haven't gone to the World Cup happened this year.
No, it's the same coach. Otto something or other. Can't pronounce it. They've just not got it together - only 1 away win since the chamionship.

[EvilElvis]

No, it's the same coach. Otto something or other. Can't pronounce it. They've just not got it together - only 1 away win since the chamionship.

Hitzveld?


Or does he now call himself Berti?! :D

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Tottenham)
Everton v Watford (Draw)
Newcastle v Wigan (Wigan)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Draw)
Reading v Middlesbrough (Middlesbrough)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (Draw)
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (Man Utd)

[EvilElvis]

Soti's on now, but it's a bit pointless really.


Good excersize for England, 4 goals by half time and your 2 biggest goal threats aren't playing.

[Bexster]

It's Otto Rehhagel. I had to look it up.

[EvilElvis]

It's Otto Rehhagel. I had to look it up.


You'd have thought the commentators may have mentioned it! :p

[Bexster]

You'd have thought the commentators may have mentioned it! :p
They did once - when they were talking about how after euro 2004 Rehhagel was offered the Germany job but turned it down. They didn't mention his name again, and I couldn't remember it.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

well i think that was good enough, Greece certainly improved in the 2nd half didn't they?

I was pleased with the formation, Gerrard and Lampard did well and stayed out each others way. although i didn't like it when we went to 4-5-1 for that short period.

[Bexster]

well i think that was good enough, Greece certainly improved in the 2nd half didn't they?

I was pleased with the formation, Gerrard and Lampard did well and stayed out each others way. although i didn't like it when we went to 4-5-1 for that short period.
We're never a good second half team - that's something McClaren needs to sort out.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

We're never a good second half team - that's something McClaren needs to sort out.

And he needs to sort out defending corners. it's pointless having crouch defending the post, in my opinion

[Bexster]

And he needs to sort out defending corners. it's pointless having crouch defending the post, in my opinion
Judas Cole always does well on the post for set pieces, so that's ok - the rest of the defence always looks a little shaky.

[EvilElvis]

Judas Cole always does well on the post for set pieces, so that's ok - the rest of the defence always looks a little shaky.

Saturday is going to be very interesting for Mr Cole.

[sunnydalehighdropout]

Saturday 19th August[/U]
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Totteham)
Everton v Watford (Everton)
Newcastle v Wigan (Draw)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Middlesborough)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (West Ham)
Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (Man Utd)

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Saturday 19th August[/U]
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Totteham)
Everton v Watford (Everton)
Newcastle v Wigan (Draw)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Middlesborough)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (West Ham)
Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (Man Utd)

somehow you've chosen boro to win the pompey blackburn game :)

[EvilElvis]

somehow you've chosen boro to win the pompey blackburn game :)


Dan can do that cause he is special

[sunnydalehighdropout]

somehow you've chosen boro to win the pompey blackburn game :)

Fuck thats meant to be -

Pompey bburn - DRAW
reading - boro - BORO

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

I suggest a change this year:

Correct result: 1 point
Correct score: 3 points

Saturday, 19th August
Barclays Premiership
12:45 Sheff Utd 0 - 4 Liverpool
15:00 Arsenal 2 - 0 Aston Villa
15:00 Everton 1 - 1 Watford
15:00 Newcastle 2 - 1 Wigan
15:00 Portsmouth 1 - 2 Blackburn
15:00 Reading 1 - 1 Middlesbro
15:00 West Ham 1 - 0 Charlton
17:15 Bolton 0 - 3 Tottenham

Sunday, 20th August
Barclays Premiership
13:30 Man Utd 4 - 1 Fulham
16:00 Chelsea 2 - 0 Man City

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Fuck thats meant to be -

Pompey bburn - DRAW
reading - boro - BORO

added.

Bex is the only person so far to bet against one of the big four

[EvilElvis]

I suggest a change this year:

Correct result: 1 point
Correct score: 3 points

Saturday, 19th August
Barclays Premiership
12:45 Sheff Utd 0 - 4 Liverpool
15:00 Arsenal 2 - 0 Aston Villa
15:00 Everton 1 - 1 Watford
15:00 Newcastle 2 - 1 Wigan
15:00 Portsmouth 1 - 2 Blackburn
15:00 Reading 1 - 1 Middlesbro
15:00 West Ham 1 - 0 Charlton
17:15 Bolton 0 - 3 Tottenham

Sunday, 20th August
Barclays Premiership
13:30 Man Utd 4 - 1 Fulham
16:00 Chelsea 2 - 0 Man City



We're bad enough at predicitions, so to the chances of getting the score correct are minimal.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

We're bad enough at predicitions, so to the chances of getting the score correct are minimal.

i agree with ollie, it's not exactly going to be tight or anything :)

also it means more work for me!

[JackTom 2.0]

saw alot of the england game in the pub.

didn't see anything glaringly bad, promising start for mclaren.

i think it's really good venables is back in the camp too

[EvilElvis]

didn't see anything glaringly bad,


Aside from Greece?! :p

[EvilElvis]

Bayern Munich midfielder Owen Hargreaves will sign for Manchester United today. (The Sun)

Liverpool are set to land Feyenoord striker Dirk Kuyt after beating off competition from Newcastle. (Various)

Iran World Cup star Andranjik Teymourian claims he will join Bolton within two weeks on a two-season contract. (Daily Mirror)

Arsenal are ready to lower the asking price for Ashley Cole - not for Chelsea but for a foreign club, with Inter Milan believed to have shown an interest in the England defender. (Daily Mirror)

Meanwhile, Cole may be in the Gunners squad for Saturday's Premiership opener against Aston Villa. (The Sun)

Manager Arsene Wenger has told the Arsenal board to complete the sale of Ashley Cole by the end of this week. (The Independent)

Celtic have told former Parkhead boss Martin O'Neill, who is now manager of Aston Villa, that he can forget about signing midfielder Stilian Petrov. (Daily Record)

Wolves are set to complete the loan signing of 21-year-old Liverpool midfielder Darren Potter. (Daily Mirror)

Ipswich want to sign Crystal Palace striker Jon Macken on loan. (Daily Mirror)

OTHER GOSSIP
Chelsea striker Didier Drogba has revealed that only a last-minute plea from manager Jose Mourinho prevented him from leaving Stamford Bridge this summer. (The Sun)

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has warned Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo he must cut out the diving in matches - if he wants to be forgiven by English fans following his role in team-mate Wayne Rooney's sending off in England's World Cup quarter-final with Portugal. (Various)

American billionaire Randy Lerner has moved closer to a £62.6m takeover of Aston Villa. (The Sun)

Newcastle manager Glenn Roeder admits he may have to write off Michael Owen for the whole season because of the England striker's cruciate ligament injury. (The Sun)

Chelsea fear they may be without Petr Cech for the opening month of the season because the goalkeeper's recovery from groin surgery took longer than expected and he has only just resumed training. (Daily Mirror)


FUNNIES
New Rangers signing Filip Sebo says his hat-trick in Slovakia's 3-0 win over Malta on Tuesdsay may have been down to chocolate. He said: "Before the Malta game I ate some white chocolate. I probably had too much but maybe, in a strange way, that helped me to score the hat-trick. I should try this before every game to see if it works." (Daily Record)

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Liverpool are set to land Feyenoord striker Dirk Kuyt after beating off competition from Newcastle. (Various)

hahaha, yesterday he was set to snub them for newcastle!

Iran World Cup star Andranjik Teymourian claims he will join Bolton within two weeks on a two-season contract. (Daily Mirror)

isn't that principal Skinners' real name!? :confused:

[Renegades of funk 8]

Saturday 19th August[/U]
Arsenal v Aston Villa (Arsenal)
Bolton v Tottenham (Spurs)
Everton v Watford (Everton)
Newcastle v Wigan (Newcastle)
Portsmouth v Blackburn (Blackburn)
Reading v Middlesbrough (Reading)
Sheff Utd v Liverpool (Liverpool)
West Ham v Charlton (Draw)
Sunday 20th August
Chelsea v Man City (Chelsea)
Man Utd v Fulham (Fulham)

[Bexster]

added.

Bex is the only person so far to bet against one of the big four

I like to stir things up. I think I was the only one to not have the big four in the top four this season with my league prediction. I just don't think Man U are going to be as good this season - I think Spurs will be better.

BREAKING NEWS - Liverpool have agreed a fee for Kuyt. That's the most positive news I've heard on it for months.

And as for Cole, I want him to go abroad if he moves. Wenger always said he'd never sell to a rival, and selling one of your best players to your biggest rival is stupid. Send him to Inter and see how he goes.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

If Kuyt goes to Liverpool, that's bad news for Crouch and Fowler, especially if the 4-5-1 is the way forward

[Bexster]

If Kuyt goes to Liverpool, that's bad news for Crouch and Fowler, especially if the 4-5-1 is the way forward
I don't like the 4-5-1 formation in general. I watched Palace play it the other day and it didn't work at all. Liverpool have got such a great strikeforce, they should play with 2 up front at all times, if not three.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I don't like the 4-5-1 formation in general. I watched Palace play it the other day and it didn't work at all. Liverpool have got such a great strikeforce, they should play with 2 up front at all times, if not three.

4-5-1 is shit, the only way it works is if it's a predominant 4-3-3... which, i guess means it wouldn't be a 4-5-1 :D

[Bexster]

4-5-1 is shit, the only way it works is if it's a predominant 4-3-3... which, i guess means it wouldn't be a 4-5-1 :D
4-3-3 is a difficult formation if you've got lots of good midfielders (a formation Spurs would never play then!) You could go to 3-4-3, but that's too dangerous against some teams. 4-4-2, or 5 (wingbacks)-3-2 is always what I prefer - I always tend to play it on the pc too, but never 4-5-1.

[Bexster]

Injured Owen big doubt for season

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/4801049.stm

Newcastle boss Glenn Roeder has admitted injured striker Michael Owen may not play at all this season.

Owen, 26, ruptured his anterior cruciate knee ligament in England's 2-2 draw against Sweden at the recent World Cup and is set to have an operation.

"It's a long term injury. I don't know if he'll play again this season," Roeder told BBC Radio Newcastle.

"He's getting the best possible treatment and will have the best surgeon in the world operating on him."

Roeder added: "Michael has an injury that will take a fair bit of time to repair. If we put a date on it and we say that he'll be back by next March, and then he's not fit, then it will cause more problems."

Owen's cruciate ligament surgery had been delayed until September because he required an operation to repair cartilage damage on his injured right knee in July.

The England international, who signed for Newcastle from Real Madrid for £17m in August 2005, missed most of the second half of the 2005-06 season with a broken foot.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

4-3-3 is a difficult formation if you've got lots of good midfielders (a formation Spurs would never play then!) You could go to 3-4-3, but that's too dangerous against some teams. 4-4-2, or 5 (wingbacks)-3-2 is always what I prefer - I always tend to play it on the pc too, but never 4-5-1.

I Always have wing backs of FM/CM games! :D

i won the champs league with Hacken, a swedish team, with a 37 year old Rivaldo as left wing back! :D

it's probably one of the best formations you can get, if i was a manager i wouldn't stray away from that, only maybe for 4-4-2 with a holding midfielder

[Bexster]

I Always have wing backs of FM/CM games! :D

i won the champs league with Hacken, a swedish team, with a 37 year old Rivaldo as left wing back! :D

it's probably one of the best formations you can get, if i was a manager i wouldn't stray away from that, only maybe for 4-4-2 with a holding midfielder
It would depend on how you postitioned your midfield - you could play a midfield diamond, but I think that relies too much on play down the middle. I like a flatter midfield, with a pair in the middle that can defend or attack if needed.

A lot of teams don't utilise the wings enough, and it's a shame. Players like Lennon, SWP, Cole, Pennant are like weapons sometimes, and if they get their crosses in, then you're gonna get scoring opportunities.

[Bexster]

Chelsea have filed a complaint to the FA against Ken Bates and Leeds. More soon...

[tom65]

Why are Liverpool signing Kuyt? Newcastle actually need him. It's just mean :(

[Wish_Master2100]

After seeing Liverpool on Sunday, IMO, they don't need Kuyt. They should try and sign one more center back, and they'd be raring to go.

They're definately the fittest, and most ready of all teams in the division thus far.

[EvilElvis]

And as for Cole, I want him to go abroad if he moves. Wenger always said he'd never sell to a rival, and selling one of your best players to your biggest rival is stupid. Send him to Inter and see how he goes.


I heard that Arsenal are willing to lower their price for Cole - to foreign teams only.

[weeniebeenie]

I heard that Arsenal are willing to lower their price for Cole - to foreign teams only.

I hope he doesn't go abroad. With Tweedy living in a different country that could spell the end of the seminal Girls Aloud.

[EvilElvis]

I hope he doesn't go abroad. With Tweedy living in a different country that could spell the end of the seminal Girls Aloud.

Surely you'd be more concerned with the fact Nadine's planning on moving to America with her bloke now.

Why and how the hell did I know about that?! :confused:

[Bexster]

I heard that Arsenal are willing to lower their price for Cole - to foreign teams only.
There was a rumour that he had a clause in his new contract that he couldn't be sold to Chelsea unless they offered £25 or £30 million, but that it didn't matter for anyone else. It would make much more sense to sell him abroad.

And if it means the end of Girls Aloud, then we can all be happy :D

[Bexster]

Surely you'd be more concerned with the fact Nadine's planning on moving to America with her bloke now.

Why and how the hell did I know about that?! :confused:
I would also like to know the answer to that question...

[EvilElvis]

And if it means the end of Girls Aloud, then we can all be happy :D

Nah! You'd just get 4 solo acts and the ginger minger will go to radio - She has a face for it.

[tom65]

I don't think this has been posted:



Hargreaves to force Man Utd move

Owen Hargreaves is believed to be on the verge of a move to Manchester United if the two clubs can agree a deal.

The 25-year-old starred at Old Trafford for England on Wednesday as he helped the team to a 4-0 win over Greece.

Bayern are reluctant to let Hargreaves go but he has made it clear he wants to join United and £13m could seal it.

Hargreaves will return to Bayern on Thursday where he is expected to reiterate his desire to move.

He is already understood to have had meetings with the Bayern hierarchy where he has stated his intentions.

And Hargreaves publicly signalled his intent for the transfer to go through when he said: "To play (for Manchester United) is a great opportunity and I would be happy if I got that chance.

"Particularly as an England international, it's of interest and you never know if such an opportunity will arise again.

"Now is the time to take the next step to develop even further."

Hargreaves seems determined to seize on his raised profile in England following his combative and tough-tackling displays during the World Cup.

He was seen as England's player of the tournament and continued his impressive rise in the international ranks in the friendly against Greece in new manager Steve McClaren's first game in charge.

Bayern would be reluctant to sell Hargreaves after fellow central midfield star Michael Ballack left them to join Chelsea at the end of last season.

Bayern general manager Uli Hoeness said: "Hargreaves is not a subject of discussion.

"Owen has a contract until 2010 and he will complete it. The issue is closed."

Hargreaves has been at Bayern since moving to the club from Canada as a 16-year-old in 1997.

He helped Bayern to the Champions League crown in 2001 and has also won four Bundesliga titles with the club.

His inclusion in former England coach Sven-Goran Eriksson's squad for the World Cup raised eyebrows after he had failed to establish himself since his international debut against Holland in August 2001.

But he was in impressive form in Germany and starred when he played against Sweden and Portugal.

Bayern coach Felix Magath added: "I am not planning to get rid of any players, particularly not Hargreaves - it has never been an issue."

Hargreaves has been linked with numerous Premiership clubs over recent years, including Arsenal, Tottenham and Middlesbrough.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4798403.stm


I think he's a good player - possibly a great one. He'd be a good buy, considering Scholes will probably be retiring in the next few years.

[EvilElvis]

considering Scholes will probably be retiring in the next few years.


Scholes retiring?!


I thought he already did. :D

[EvilElvis]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4796269.stm

Premiership to axe 'injury break'
By Phil Harlow


The Premier League has asked players, managers and referees to end the custom of the ball being kicked out of play when a player goes down injured.

Decisions on whether a break in play is necessary for treatment to be received will now be taken by the referee.

"There was a general feeling that this player-led convention had gone too far," Premier League spokesman Dan Johnson told BBC Sport.

But the Football League told BBC Sport it had no plans to make changes.

The custom has gradually established itself in football over the years, but has never been formalised in the rules.

But the feeling that this "gentlemen's agreement" was being taken advantage of has become widespread, with frequent breaks in play at the 2006 World Cup cited as the most high-profile abuse.

Managers and players complained of situations where the ball was kicked out for non-existent injuries in order to stop a team's attacking momentum.

And the arbitrary nature of the convention has led to several flashpoints in recent years.

Last season, Arsenal's crucial Premiership match against Tottenham was marred by scenes of managers Arsene Wenger and Martin Jol squaring up on the sidelines.

Wenger was furious when Spurs did not put the ball out of play after Emmanuel Eboue and Gilberto Silva were injured in the build-up to Robbie Keane's goal.

Another example of the misunderstanding the convention can produce is Marc Overmars' goal for Arsenal against Sheffield United in their 1999 FA Cup fifth-round tie.

In that instance, the ball had been kicked out by United to allow their player Lee Morris to receive treatment.

But instead of returning the ball to the Blades on resumption of play, Arsenal striker Kanu released Overmars to score.

The incident led to the match being replayed, with the Football Association agreeing to the Gunners' offer to play the match again.


WHY DID THE PREMIER LEAGUE WANT THIS CHANGE?

Premier League spokesman Dan Johnson:

"There were certain incidents - like the Martin Jol and Arsene Wenger flare-up last season - that made us think it was time to place the decision back in the hands of the referee.

"Sometimes the demand for the ball to go immediately out - from both players and fans - was almost acting as an extra defender.

"If there is a serious injury then the referee can, of course, take immediate action in the interests of player safety, but if it's a run-of-the-mill knock then play should go on.

"It's never been part of the rules, so that makes it all the more important to get the League Managers' Association (LMA) and the Professional Footballers' Association (PFA) on board.

"We need both organisations' support to communicate this to their members - and fans also need to be aware.

"This will remove the pressure on players who are wondering at the back of their mind 'is he really injured?'

"What people don't like to see is when an attack gets stopped because someone goes down grabbing their knee and then, a minute later, he's sprinting around and putting tackles in.

"It's important for the integrity and honesty of the game, as well as the flow."


WILL THE PFA CO-OPERATE?

PFA chief executive Gordon Taylor:
"I was at a meeting on Tuesday with the LMA and referees' representatives and lots of managers said they were confused and frustrated by the current state of affairs.


"From that point of view, it's vital to establish some clarity so everyone knows exactly what the situation is.

"If the ball is kicked out then it should be a normal throw-in, and if the referee stops play, then when play restarts with a drop ball possession should return to the injured party.

"Player safety has to be paramount. We don't want referees mucking about if there's any doubt - they can't take any chances because players can, for instance, swallow their tongue.

"It's about striking a balance between common sense and player safety.

"Some people have been rather cynical about this custom, and that is what we want to lose - but without losing the spirit of fair play."


WHAT ABOUT THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE CLUBS?

Football League spokesman John Nagle:
"We will not be issuing any additional advice to referees, clubs or players regarding the issue of kicking the ball out of play at injury situations.
"There is no evidence that this convention is being widely abused within the League.

"We will, though, continue to monitor the situation."


WHAT DO THE MANAGERS THINK?

LMA deputy chairman Frank Clark:
"We've had several meetings with managers from all divisions and there is a huge majority in favour of giving the decision to the referees.
"It worked very well for a number of years, but you only had to watch certain matches at the World Cup to see it's being abused now.

"Teams aren't giving the ball back in the spirit originally intended anymore and the whole thing's a mess.

"It's not a rule change, but because it's a convention which is ingrained in the game here, we need everyone on the same wavelength.

"To a certain extent, it's going to be a PR exercise, especially in terms of the fans.

"We definitely think a change is the way forward."


DOES THE FA HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY?

FA spokesman Andrin Cooper:
"There's obviously nothing in the laws of the game about it; it has just evolved over time.
"Our view is that if the referees, clubs and managers agree on one clear approach, then we're fine with that.

"If the participants affected - that is the players, managers and referees - agree, then it is absolutely down to them.

"In terms of grassroots football, I think we need to see how things progress in the professional game before any firm decision is taken."

[EvilElvis]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5261574.stm

Reggina suffer 15-point deduction

Italian club Reggina will start next season with a 15-point deduction in Serie A for their role in the match-fixing scandal.
Club president Pasquale "Lillo" Foti has also been banned for two-and-a-half years and fined £20,000, while the club must also pay a £68,000 fine.

Prosecutors had requested Reggina be demoted to Serie B.

Reggina usually struggle against relegation and the deduction penalty leaves them a tough task next season.

Serie B club Arezzo avoided relegation to Serie C1 but will start next season with a nine-point deduction.

Four other clubs have been punished in the scandal.

Juventus were relegated to Serie B and docked 17 points at the start of the season for seeking an unfair advantage in the appointment of referees.

They were also stripped of the Serie A titles they won in the last two seasons.

AC Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina were all allowed to remain in Serie A but with points penalties.

The clubs have lodged a second round of appeals against their sentences, which were reduced in a first appeal.

The Italian Olympic Committee's conciliation court will meet on Friday to rule on Juve's second appeal.

[tom65]

Scholes retiring?!


I thought he already did. :D


No, not as far as I can see, anyway.


*cough*

[EvilElvis]

Bayern Munich midfielder Owen Hargreaves' move to Manchester United looks closer as he is photographed with an official from the English club. (The Sun)

Ashley Cole is likely to start the season with Arsenal as there is no sign of Chelsea meeting the north Londoners' valuation of £25m. (The Independent)

Sunderland are in talks for Celtic midfielder Didier Agathe. (The Sun)

Real Madrid have cooled on a move for Jose Reyes because Arsenal are asking for £16.5m. (The Sun)

Marcos Senna is ready to commit to Villareal after Manchester United's interest turned to Owen Hargreaves. (The Independent)

Bolton boss Sam Allardyce is after PSV striker Jan Venegoor of Hesselink. (The Sun)

More to follow from second editions....


OTHER GOSSIP
Chelsea want the FA to boot former chairman Ken Bates out of football for alleged racism. (The Sun)

More to follow from second editions....


FUNNIES
More to follow from second editions....

[Renegades of funk 8]

No, not as far as I can see, anyway.


*cough*


well i got it

[Two-Bob Peeters]

http://www.pesfanzine.com/

A Fanzine in acrobat format for the new PES6 game

[Wish_Master2100]

Kuyt completes Liverpool move.

HURRAH.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Kuyt completes Liverpool move.

HURRAH.

Roder says "meh, we didn't bid for him anyway" and then runs off crying.

[Wish_Master2100]

Roder says "meh, we didn't bid for him anyway" and then runs off crying.

Hopefully United will get Hargreaves, then that'll set up a big top 3 clash this season. United were in danger of falling behind Liverpool and Chelsea, but if they land Hargreaves, will be right back up there.

I don't think Arsenal will be up to much this year, as they'll probably be settling into the new ground, and building a team for the future.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Kuyt completes Liverpool move.

HURRAH.

tomorrows Rumour Page:

Kuyt completes Liverpool medical (Various)

Kuyt trains for first time in Liverpool colours, avidly watched By Newcastle scouts (Daily Star)

Kuyt Kuyt Kuyt (Daily Mail)

Funnies:

Millwall Boss Nigel Spackman confirmed his interest in new Liverpool Signing Dirk Kuyt. "We really thought we was in with a chance" Said The Ex Barnsley Man (South London Press)

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Hopefully United will get Hargreaves, then that'll set up a big top 3 clash this season. United were in danger of falling behind Liverpool and Chelsea, but if they land Hargreaves, will be right back up there.

I don't think Arsenal will be up to much this year, as they'll probably be settling into the new ground, and building a team for the future.

yeah i reckon another season or so before Arsenal make another serious challenge

[Wish_Master2100]

tomorrows Rumour Page:

Kuyt completes Liverpool medical (Various)

Kuyt trains for first time in Liverpool colours, avidly watched By Newcastle scouts (Daily Star)

Kuyt Kuyt Kuyt (Daily Mail)

Funnies:

Millwall Boss Nigel Spackman confirmed his interest in new Liverpool Signing Dirk Kuyt. "We really thought we was in with a chance" Said The Ex Barnsley Man (South London Press)

Stop with the anti-Liverpoolness. I got told off for that, and they'll put you on ignore aswell!

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Stop with the anti-Liverpoolness. I got told off for that, and they'll put you on ignore aswell!
it's not anti-liverpool ness you spaz! it's mocking the coverage of Kuyt the last few weeks

[Wish_Master2100]

it's not anti-liverpool ness you spaz! it's mocking the coverage of Kuyt the last few weeks

I think Dirk Kuyt is shit anyway. Shit name. Ugly cunt. Liverpool didn't need him, should've gone to Newcastle.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Arsenal will be out of the top 6 this year. - they've sold off their strength and brought in more lightweight players. They're screwed.

Newcastle have 3 singings coming in apparently. One of those being an unkown russian striker from a certain club (I've had a look at the club in question and two of their 4 strikers are phenominal). Hopefully we'll get 2 strikers and a defender. Then we'll be up there in the top 6 too.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I think Dirk Kuyt is shit anyway. Shit name. Ugly cunt. Liverpool didn't need him, should've gone to Newcastle.

i don't think Liverpool needed him, you're right there, we'll soon see if he's shit, that's for sure

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

I think Dirk Kuyt is shit anyway. Shit name. Ugly cunt. Liverpool didn't need him, should've gone to Newcastle.

You're an idiot.

Bellamy an d Kuyt will destroy defences. Crouch and Fowler can now retire.

[Wish_Master2100]

You're an idiot.

Bellamy an d Kuyt will destroy defences. Crouch and Fowler can now retire.

You're more of an idiot for coming up with such an un-necessary response.

Liverpool need Crouch, Fowler can fuck off.

[Bud]

Arsenal will be out of the top 6 this year. - they've sold off their strength and brought in more lightweight players. They're screwed.

I bet you £5 that we'll finish above Newcastle this year.

[Wish_Master2100]

I bet you £5 that we'll finish about Newcastle this year.

About Newcastle?

Gotta get facts right if theres £5 on the line!

[Bud]

About Newcastle?

Gotta get facts right if theres £5 on the line!

Oops. Yes. Above Newcastle.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

You're more of an idiot for coming up with such an un-necessary response.

Liverpool need Crouch, Fowler can fuck off.

Why do Liverpool need Crouch? He's absolutely shite in the air and hardly better on his feet. He only scores goals that anyone else could have scored.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

I bet you £5 that we'll finish above Newcastle this year.

Sure.

[Wish_Master2100]

Why do Liverpool need Crouch? He's absolutely shite in the air and hardly better on his feet. He only scores goals that anyone else could have scored.

...Oh are you kidding?

Who else are Liverpool going to rely on? Crouch is quality and has steadily gotten better over the last two years. At the moment, how you cannot have him in the team is beyond me.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

...Oh are you kidding?

Who else are Liverpool going to rely on? Crouch is quality and has steadily gotten better over the last two years. At the moment, how you cannot have him in the team is beyond me.

Because the guy has no control over the ball. Yes he can get his lanky ass up into the air, but the ball randomly bounces off of him, usually straight to the opposition. Kuyt can actually win headers and put them on target, something that Crouch can only do if his feet are on the ground.

[Wish_Master2100]

Because the guy has no control over the ball. Yes he can get his lanky ass up into the air, but the ball randomly bounces off of him, usually straight to the opposition. Kuyt can actually win headers and put them on target, something that Crouch can only do if his feet are on the ground.

But Kuyt and Crouch are two polar opposite players. You cannot choose who to have based on their abilities, as it would be six of one half a dozen of the other.

Looking at the Liverpool team now, especially now they have Pennant and Bellamy, they need Crouch more than they do Kuyt.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

But Kuyt and Crouch are two polar opposite players. You cannot choose who to have based on their abilities, as it would be six of one half a dozen of the other.

Looking at the Liverpool team now, especially now they have Pennant and Bellamy, they need Crouch more than they do Kuyt.

No they don't, Crouch is shit - most possesion is lost because of him.

[Wish_Master2100]

No they don't, Crouch is shit - most possesion is lost because of him.

Alright Mr Opta Stats.

Surely most possesion is lost with Strikers anyway?

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Alright Mr Opta Stats.

Surely most possesion is lost with Strikers anyway?

Nope. Most strikers lose possession when they get a shot off on goal. Crouch loses possession becauzse he has no ball control with his head.

[Wish_Master2100]

becauzse

Polish?

I don't think anyone in the world can say they have control of the ball with their head.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Polish?

I don't think anyone in the world can say they have control of the ball with their head.

What a stupid thing to say.

[Wish_Master2100]

What a stupid thing to say.

No it isn't, I just replied to your comment that Crouch has 'no ball control with his head'

I think you just said that because you have run out of logical things to say.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

No it isn't, I just replied to your comment that Crouch has 'no ball control with his head'

I think you just said that because you have run out of logical things to say.

You saying that peopole have no ball control with their heads is completely retarded.

[Wish_Master2100]

You saying that peopole have no ball control with their heads is completely retarded.

How so?

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

How so?

So if people have no control over the ball with their head, please explain Alan Shearer, Miroslav Klose, Karl Heinze Riedler, Duncam Ferguson etc etc etc

Also, see Kerlon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5LdH_km-_o).

[Wish_Master2100]

So if people have no control over the ball with their head, please explain Alan Shearer, Miroslav Klose, Karl Heinze Riedler, Duncam Ferguson etc etc etc

Also, see Kerlon.

That's ability to head the ball, not ball control.

Ball control is first touch, dribbling etc.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

That's ability to head the ball, not ball control.

Ball control is first touch, dribbling etc.

Ball control is being able to put the ball where you want it. Crouch can't do it.

[Wish_Master2100]

Ball control is being able to put the ball where you want it. Crouch can't do it.

That's actually distribution.

Stop just saying things to make an argument.

You think Crouch is rubbish, fair enough, that is your opinion, which you are entitled to.

But don't just waffle on throwing up words, because your basis for a logical argument decreases.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

That's actually distribution.

Stop just saying things to make an argument.

You think Crouch is rubbish, fair enough, that is your opinion, which you are entitled to.

But don't just waffle on throwing up words, because your basis for a logical argument decreases.


You're an idiot mate. Good job.

[Wish_Master2100]

You're an idiot mate. Good job.

*Shakes head*

I now know not to talk to you in future, because, well, you're a bit shit really.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

look, it's pretty fucking simple.

Bal control = control over the ball.

Jesus.

[Wish_Master2100]

look, it's pretty fucking simple.

Bal control = control over the ball.

Jesus.

Correct.

But you were saying things to contradict that.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Correct.

But you were saying things to contradict that.

No I fucking wasn't.

It's still ball control no matter if you use your feet your head or your fucking nuts.

[JackTom 2.0]

and by the way crouch has rubbish nut control.


i don't really rate crouch. he tries bless him, but he just doesn't have the ability

[Wish_Master2100]

No I fucking wasn't.

It's still ball control no matter if you use your feet your head or your fucking nuts.

I disagree.

But I can definately say no one in the world can control the ball with their nuts. Without their eyes watering anyway.

[Bexster]

Chelsea have agreed a fee for Khalid Boulahrouz from Hamburg. (Don't know if I spelt that right)

Does this officially spell the end for the Cole transfer?

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

Chelsea have agreed a fee for Khalid Boulahrouz from Hamburg. (Don't know if I spelt that right)

Does this officially spell the end for the Cole transfer?

Looks like it, he'll prob go somewhere abroad now I imagine.

[Bexster]

Looks like it, he'll prob go somewhere abroad now I imagine.
I think so. Mourinho's made his one purchase. That'll be it for him now.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

The Dutch guy is a centre back.

[Bexster]

The Dutch guy is a centre back.
Thanks. I wasn't sure where in defence he played.

Maybe it means Gallas will be on his way out then.