The Footie (UK) Thread: 2006/07

[Bud]

Shame he's pretty shit infront of goal then.

Pennant was obviously going our to make a point, but all he got was "Arsenal Reject" from the stands :D

[Bexster]

Shame he's pretty shit infront of goal then.

Pennant was obviously going our to make a point, but all he got was "Arsenal Reject" from the stands :D
Liverpool weren't going to pick themselves up from the first goal. They haven't played with the right attitude at all this season. Arsenal have been going for it this season - they may have lost a couple of shocking games, but they're third despite it all.

[Captain Stu]

Didn't see the match, glad I didn't and didn't watch Match Of The Day - were the papers right (hell, even Wenger said it) that it was a much closer match than the scoreline indicates and the first goal changed it all?

What really gets me is that three defenders scored, what the fuck is up with that?

And yeah, Zenden? Against Arsenal? What the fuck is the point in that, Rafa? What was that EVER going to accomplish, really? Nothing, that's what... play Gerrard in the fucking middle for fucks sake before we lose all fucking hope of qualifying for the fucking Champions League.

Fucks sake, I didn't honestly think we'd win but no way in hell did I expect a seeing-to like that.

Fucking wankers.

[boxshapedheart]

Didn't see the match, glad I didn't and didn't watch Match Of The Day - were the papers right (hell, even Wenger said it) that it was a much closer match than the scoreline indicates and the first goal changed it all?

I watched with my brother. It wasn't really a seeing-to. The old "goal changes the game" cliche springs to mind. You more than matched them in the first half, and same in the second half until the goal, you just weren't able to get your shots on target... They got the first goal, which of course changed it all cos they could then counter-attack.

The Gallas goal was just complete confusion between Gerrard and Riise about who should be marking Gallas and Henry - they both went to Henry.

Oh and I know the commentators shrugged off Bellamy's non-goal in like the 82nd minute (ruled offside when I'm sure it wasn't). But that goal coulda done alot to Bellamy's confidence, or even to the match. A lot can happen in 10 mins when a team is on the chase. Ah well.

Van Persie, you dirty shite, trying it on with the sly handball at the start of the game. Tut tut.

Carragher could have got sent off for 2 yellows, but ref was lenient after the second challenge.

Ref's injury and getting physio for a coupla minutes did make me larf. :D

[boxshapedheart]

And Boxshapedheart fucking cleared up this week.
Eeeexellent. :cool:

[Renegades of funk 8]

Eeeexellent. :cool:

i think i did alright this week aswell, 7/10 i think

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Eeeexellent. :cool:

goddamn cheat :mad:

[Bexster]

Van Persie, you dirty shite, trying it on with the sly handball at the start of the game. Tut tut.
At least the ref actually did something about it though by booking him, which is a plus.

I don't like seeing Liverpool not doing well. I know I'm not supposed to like them, but I feel quite sad about it, especially after last season.

[Captain Stu]

Stupid fucking Benitez, he pissed me off yesterday - it was the ultimate time to move Gerrard back inside and let him run the game like he always used to... but no, let's bring a 30+ year old who never had any real pace to speak of and stick him in. Pish.

Oh well, at least we didn't get a proper dicking I suppose, that'd be even worse.

[rob3000]

I don't like seeing Liverpool not doing well. I know I'm not supposed to like them, but I feel quite sad about it, especially after last season.
Yeah, but it'll turn out alright. We were awful a couple of seasons ago but won the champions league. It's only temporary.

[Captain Stu]

Robbo, you been to Tea Gather for a big, stinky greasefest of a brekkie yet?

[rob3000]

Robbo, you been to Tea Gather for a big, stinky greasefest of a brekkie yet?
Not yet! But I promise I will. I was always late for uni last week, when I'd planned to go before!

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I've made a group on pro evo online, if you like search for FooBoard, anbd add yourselves, i figure it'd be handy as we can see if any of us is online. just about to play my first game in a tournament. my user name is ookie

[Captain Stu]

I've made a group on pro evo online, if you like search for FooBoard, anbd add yourselves, i figure it'd be handy as we can see if any of us is online. just about to play my first game in a tournament. my user name is ookie

I didn't know you could do groups! I'll have a look tomorrow night when I'm at home. :)

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I didn't know you could do groups! I'll have a look tomorrow night when I'm at home. :)

once you're logged into a server, there's a search option thingy, i'm still getting the hang of the browser, it's bit overly... stupid...

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

Yesterday's game was a typical Spurs-esque result. Beat Chelsea then get thumped by Reading the following week.

Not happy.

[Wish_Master2100]

i think i did alright this week aswell, 7/10 i think

You did indeed get 7/10.

BSH got 8/10.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

You did indeed get 7/10.

BSH got 8/10.

post the table!

btw 8/10 is a new weekley record, we should all be ashamed that a girl is beating us :D

[Bexster]

Yahoo League

Rank Team Points
1 Winchestertonfieldville 846.50
2 Furry Beanbag 704.50
3 Fascist Hooligans XI 700.00
4 Team Ronaldo 686.00
5 South East Superstars 671.00
6 Nearly Signed 658.50
7 Fred.... 642.00
8 Fantasy Bazaar 629.00
9 Honorary Rangers 595.50
10 OJ Villa 566.00
11 Fashion Zombies 539.00
12 FFCMark 516.50
13 Team JT 462.00


Premier rankings

# Team Manager Gameweek Total
1 Brawling Beer Barons Stephen Kyriakou 40 590
2 Gashrash Athletic David FOOUK 58 582
3 Honorary Leeds Daniel Reid 40 571
4 Team JT ian hale 47 564
5 Team Jeremy Beadle Kevin McNally 38 554
6 OJ Villa Ollie Johnston 36 553
7 Box Shaped FC Sarah Evans 48 538
8 Jack White's XI Jamie B 34 522
9 Team Zizzou Ed Pearson 39 522
10 Roman's Cash Point Dan B 31 508
11 Zidane Headbutter FC Phil Neal 44 495
12 St Albans City Mikey MccChambersonism 38 490
13 Fascist Hooligan XI Michael Mould 34 486
14 Notvery Athletic Marc Ackter 37 482
15 The Gooners Bec Shields 30 476
16 Nearly Signed Eddie Pain 46 474
17 chappaqua katherine k 39 464
18 Fretboard Monkeys Stuart Bridson 32 458
19 Fredtastic! Fred Jones 36 451
20 FunkyGibbon Mark Dineen 31 441
21 Jziklick Man Well 31 416
22 Stunt Team joe bloggs 57 370
23 Fashion Zombies Kat R 30 352

[Wish_Master2100]

post the table!

No!

[Ian Mc]

I'll tell ya, honestly, I will LOVE IT Newcastle get relegated. LOVE IT.

I fucking hate you!

[Renegades of funk 8]

No!

go on.....:D

[Renegades of funk 8]

post the table!

btw 8/10 is a new weekley record, we should all be ashamed that a girl is beating us :D

is that you mike newell :D

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

I fucking hate you!

Well, I thought it was witty.

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

Dowie's gone.

[Renegades of funk 8]

Dowie's gone.


that should be his premier leauge career over now then

[Ian Mc]

Well, I thought it was witty.

So did I, that's why it hurt so much!

[Bexster]

that should be his premier leauge career over now then
Yup. Can't see anyone wanting him for a while.

[Captain Stu]

No!

You said you'd post it every other week and we didn't get it last week, so... :(

Dowie's gone.

Thank fuck for that, he's as useless as he is ugly... and man, he's one of the ugliest people alive.

Seriously, he's just utter gash.

*

Me and my Dad have been chatting about ze Arsenal game, apparently Gonzalez was absolute turd, which is really fucking annoying because I like the guy, but what do you expect? He's started against both United and Arsenal but in the meantime doesn't get a run in the team! How's he supposed to get some form without a run of games in the team and, more so, he still doesn't understand the league and the team, let alone have a deep enough understanding to play effectively against the top sides. :rolleyes:

We reckon there's a battle of wills at the moment, Gerrard and Benitez - despite what they say publically. Rafa seems to be testing Gerrard with every game - play him wildly out of position and see how he reacts to it - and it's gonna force him out. I honestly don't think he'll be here season after next if this shit continues, no offense to Rafa... but Gerrard's a lot more likely to lead us to the title than he is. Take Gerrard out our team and we won't win fuck all for the next 10 years or until we replace him.

[Bexster]

Did anyone see the football incident at the Macclesfield game yesterday? My flatmate saw it on the news this morining - some people outside the ground threw in about 30-40 footballs onto the pitch, and kept chucking them back when the players were chucking them out. Hilarious. I want to see it.

[Captain Stu]

Ahahaha, lollerz. :D

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What exactly did Mike Newell say? Did he just say this chick linesman shouldn't be doing it because she's a silly woman?

Mountain out of molehill anyone? Sure, it was a bit mean, but Luton were/are apparently seriously considering his job over it. :confused:

[Bexster]

It was a stupid quote in the heat of the moment. He basically admitted to being sexist and that women shouldn't be officiating at all.

"It is bad enough with the incapable referees and linesmen we have but if you start bringing in women, you have big problems," said Newell.

"This is Championship football. This is not park football, so what are women doing here? It is tokenism, for the politically-correct idiots.

"She should not be here. I know that sounds sexist but I am sexist, so I am not going to be anything other than that."
I'm not going to comment on it. (although I might)

Also, here's the link to the Macclesfield story
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/macclesfield_town/6146490.stm

[Captain Stu]

It was a stupid quote in the heat of the moment. He basically admitted to being sexist and that women shouldn't be officiating at all.

... hahaha, at least he admits he's sexist. :D

Also, here's the link to the Macclesfield story
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/macclesfield_town/6146490.stm

lolzerztothemax! Not surprised nobody's claimed responsibilty for it, the local fans will probably lynch them!

[Bexster]

lolzerztothemax! Not surprised nobody's claimed responsibilty for it, the local fans will probably lynch them!
It's such a cool idea. Worth the cost of the footballs alone :D

Obviously Newell should get a slapped wrist - he's just alienated a whole section of referees in Britain, but it's not worth losing his job over. I'm not that offended.

What a telling quote
McClaren added: "I speak to Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho quite often. He wants to give Shaun more games but, obviously, he has other priorities."
Please, SWP. Leave Chelski. They're just screwing you over.

[Bud]

Luton will use the sexism as an excuse to bin him. He hasn't been too nice about the chairman either...

[Captain Stu]

Please, SWP. Leave Chelski. They're just screwing you over.

One day, he might realise that he has no future at Chelski and, now, he'd probably struggle to get in the Arsenal side too with the way that Hleb is playing. Well, not so much "struggle" as he wouldn't instantly walk into it as he would've 2 years ago.

Luton will use the sexism as an excuse to bin him. He hasn't been too nice about the chairman either...

Aye, it all started going pear-shaped with the bung scandle. Don't think Luton appreciated that one.

[Bud]

I'd rather have SWP than Hleb. Not that I dislike him as a player, but SWP would give us more width and pace.

[**dylan**]

Please, SWP. Leave Chelski. They're just screwing you over.

wow mourinho speaks english just like mcclaren :/ i wish he would

[Captain Stu]

Shaun rules, his path was paved to follow in Wrighty's footsteps but noooo, he had to want "a new challenge", ie, lots of money.

Well, how did missing the World Cup feel, huh? How does pretty much losing the right-wing place in the England squad to Aaron Lennon feel, huh?

[Bud]

That's why Chelsea's supposed in Lennon was even more hilarious.

Sorry Saun, we're going to buy the player that replaced you in the England squad and play neither of you.

[Captain Stu]

That's why Chelsea's supposed in Lennon was even more hilarious.

Sorry Saun, we're going to buy the player that replaced you in the England squad and play neither of you.

The sad thing is... it could happen... well, if Jol ever lost his mind and sold Lennon.

[Bud]

I think that's what it'll take for SWP to leave.

[Captain Stu]

I think that's what it'll take for SWP to leave.

You're probably right. I think Duff leaving gave him a false hope because he thought he'd moved up a notch in the pecking order... but now they're playing with three central midfielders in Fatty, Ballache and Essien and using both Dogba and Shevcanthitabarndoorko, Shaun doesn't have a cat in hells chance.

*

Right, England tomorrow... who do we think will start?

I reckon:

Robinson
Cole
Terry
Ferdinand :rolleyes:
Richards :)
Cole
Carrick
Lampard
Gerrard
Rooney
Johnson

Sucks a bit, as good form as Johnson is in... or was... he's taken a dip, no goals in his last 7 games or something while Crouch continues to score? Well harsh on Crotchy. Also shit that Lennon's had to pull out injured too.

[Bexster]

You're probably right. I think Duff leaving gave him a false hope because he thought he'd moved up a notch in the pecking order... but now they're playing with three central midfielders in Fatty, Ballache and Essien and using both Dogba and Shevcanthitabarndoorko, Shaun doesn't have a cat in hells chance.

*

Right, England tomorrow... who do we think will start?

I reckon:

Robinson
Cole
Terry
Ferdinand :rolleyes:
Richards :)
Cole
Carrick
Lampard
Gerrard
Rooney
Johnson

Sucks a bit, as good form as Johnson is in... or was... he's taken a dip, no goals in his last 7 games or something while Crouch continues to score? Well harsh on Crotchy. Also shit that Lennon's had to pull out injured too.
Andy Johnson hasn't scored since I out him in my Yahoo team :rolleyes:

SWP has ruined his chances for now - luckily if he leaves now, then he'll have time to get back near to where he was. It's such a bloody shame. And everyone saw this happening other then SWP and Wrighty.

Hleb would keep him out at Arse. His only problem is his lack of consistancy. I'd still love to see SWP running down our wings at Emirates.

[weeniebeenie]

That's why Chelsea's supposed in Lennon was even more hilarious.

Sorry Saun, we're going to buy the player that replaced you in the England squad and play neither of you.

They did the same thing to Wayne Bridge with Ashley Cole.

[Bud]

They did the same thing to Wayne Bridge with Ashley Cole.

Exactly. It reminds of the Grimey episode of the Simpsons, where Mr Burns keeps hiring people who have been special in some way and forgetting the person he brought in before them.

[Captain Stu]

Wayne Bridge is one of the biggest chumps in World football, he stayed when they replaced him with Del Porno, he stayed when they replaced him with Cole and I dare say he'll stay for at least another season or two.

He could waltz into the first team of any Premiership side and a lot of decent teams in Europe... yet he's content as a bench-warmer. :rolleyes:

[weeniebeenie]

Wayne Bridge is one of the biggest chumps in World football, he stayed when they replaced him with Del Porno, he stayed when they replaced him with Cole and I dare say he'll stay for at least another season or two.

He could waltz into the first team of any Premiership side and a lot of decent teams in Europe... yet he's content as a bench-warmer. :rolleyes:

Thats an idea? We could do a chumps 11? People content to be bench warmers (probably mostly Chelsea players).

GK. Cudicini
DL. Bridge
DC.
DC.
DR.
ML.
MC.
MC.
MR.
CF.
CF.

[weeniebeenie]

GK. Cudicini
DL. Bridge
DC.
DC.
DR.
ML. McManaman (Real Madrid era)
MC.
MC.
MR.
CF. Saviola (Barcelona)
CF. Carlton Cole (Chelsea and West Ham)

[Captain Stu]

GK. Cudicini (Chelsea)
DL. Bridge (Chelsea)
DC. Bogarde (Chelsea)
DC.
DR.
ML. McManaman (Real Madrid era)
MC.
MR. Shaun Wright-Phillips (Chelsea)
CF. Owen (Real Madrid era also)
CF. Saviola (Barcelona)
CF. Carlton Cole (Chelsea and West Ham)

Sorry, I had to change the formation to accomodate Owen.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Dowie didn't even do a good job at Palace, Charlton were wrong to even hire him.

Add winston Bogarde to that list of cxhumps, chelsea yet again!

[Captain Stu]

Dowie didn't even do a good job at Palace, Charlton were wrong to even hire him

Very true.

I seriously don't understand why anyone actually rates him, he's really shit. He's so crap he's actually STOPPED Hasselbaink from scoring - sure, he's a moody cunt but you could always rely on Jimmy-Floyd to score... until he plays for Charlton.

Add winston Bogarde to that list of cxhumps, chelsea yet again!

Done, absolutely right. Didn't ge cost them about a million pound per game or something unholy like that?

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Dowie should have quit football after he scored that own goal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psTn3NJIm9A

:D

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Done, absolutely right. Didn't ge cost them about a million pound per game or something unholy like that?

actually though, he made chelsea the chump by saying he wouldn't break his contract :D he was paid £40,000 a week for nearly 3 years in the reserves!

[weeniebeenie]

GK. Cudicini (Chelsea)
DL. Bridge (Chelsea)
DC. Bogarde (Chelsea)
DC.
DR.
ML. McManaman (Real Madrid era)
MC.
MR. Shaun Wright-Phillips (Chelsea)
CF. Owen (Real Madrid era also)
CF. Saviola (Barcelona)
CF. Carlton Cole (Chelsea and West Ham)

Thats cool. I was thinking maybe Nicky Butt (Man Utd era) for centre midfield, although he was useful during Keanes suspensions.

[Captain Stu]

Had he not moved to Portsmouth, Glen Johnson was a shoe-in for the right-back slot but, in all fairness to the lad, he realised he had no future and so he moved.

Cannae think of any more players. *racks brain*

[Two-Bob Peeters]

owen had Real Madrids best Goal to minute ratio that season!

[Captain Stu]

owen had Real Madrids best Goal to minute ratio that season!

That's not saying much though. :D

His total for there was 13 goals in 35 appearances which, I suppose, isn't that bad, but he's still a chump because he was only ever used as a sub and missed all the big games. Plus some of them are cup goals.

[rob3000]

Is it fair to put Owen on the list after he left after a season? He too realised he had no future...

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Is it fair to put Owen on the list after he left after a season? He too realised he had no future...

that's a good point, the only chance he would have had to leave would be in January, which noone would really do in their first season at a aclub

[rob3000]

That's not saying much though. :D

His total for there was 13 goals in 35 appearances which, I suppose, isn't that bad, but he's still a chump because he was only ever used as a sub and missed all the big games. Plus some of them are cup goals.
35 appearances but most of them he came on as a sub. And he scored 2 against Barcelona (or was it 1?).

[Captain Stu]

Owen get to fuck... get right to fuck, the little prick. :D

[Wish_Master2100]

Dowie should have quit football after he scored that own goal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psTn3NJIm9A

:D

Iain Dowie ex manager of Palace and Charlton, scoring an own goal, whilst playing for West Ham?

That is the best thing I have ever seen.

*Ejaculates*

[Captain Stu]

That's one of the best, most placed oggies ever.

Well done, fuggo. :D

[weeniebeenie]

He should resume his film career (http://images.quizilla.com/M/MISSanthrope/1043073830_tworkSLOTH.jpg)

[Captain Stu]

He should resume his film career (http://images.quizilla.com/M/MISSanthrope/1043073830_tworkSLOTH.jpg)

Ahahahaha!

[Captain Stu]

If talk is to be believed, we can expect to see a 4-3-3 formation tonight:

GK: Robinson
DL: Cole
DC: Terry
DC: Ferdinand
DR: Richards :)
MC: Carrick
MC: Lampard
MC: Gerrard
FL: Cole
FC: Rooney
RF: Johnson

Basically the same sort of formation that Chelsea play, a midfield spine of three players, one defensive (Carrick), one ballplayer (Fatty) and one runner (Gerrard) with two wide forwards (Cole and Johnson) flanking a lone striker (Rooney).

If that's right, it's a fucking stupid idea. Rooney is not, and never will be, a sit-up-top forward, he should be playing OFF someone else, like Crouch.

Also, 4-4-2 all the way.

[weeniebeenie]

If talk is to be believed, we can expect to see a 4-3-3 formation tonight:

GK: Robinson
DL: Cole
DC: Terry
DC: Ferdinand
DR: Richards :)
MC: Carrick
MC: Lampard
MC: Gerrard
FL: Cole
FC: Rooney
RF: Johnson

Basically the same sort of formation that Chelsea play, a midfield spine of three players, one defensive (Carrick), one ballplayer (Fatty) and one runner (Gerrard) with two wide forwards (Cole and Johnson) flanking a lone striker (Rooney).

If that's right, it's a fucking stupid idea. Rooney is not, and never will be, a sit-up-top forward, he should be playing OFF someone else, like Crouch.

Also, 4-4-2 all the way.

Yep. Johnson must be loving the fact that all his appearances are with him stuck out on the right.

He seems to want to play both Lampard and Gerrard in the centre, which unforunately means a 5 man midfield (with Carrick/Hargreaves/Parker) as they don't defend enough. I think this is a crap option.

Another option is to play one of them on the wing, which is a waste of Gerrard when on the right (plus Lennon is better on the right when fit). Its also not really possible to play Lampard on the wing as he is probably too slow (again, Lennon and Joe Cole are better up the side).

The only real option seems to be to play 4-4-2 and drop either Gerrard or Lampard (basically Lampard) against the good teams where we need a defensive midfielder (Carrick/Hargreaves/Parker). Unfortunately this would require some balls.

I'd like to see (when fit):

GK. Robinson
DR. Richards/Neville
DC. Ferdinand/Carragher
DC. Terry
DL. Ashley Cole
MR. Lennon
MC. Gerrard
MC. Carrick/Hargreaves/Parker
CF. Rooney
CF. Bent/Crouch/Johnson

Edit: Doh, forgot the left midfielder. It would be joe cole.

[Captain Stu]

Annoying thing about playing Gerrard out wide-right is that he's taking someone elses place, ie, Lennon. When all our midfielders are fit, he'd prefer to play Cole, Lampard, Carrick or Hargreaves and Gerrard which means Lennon has to sit on the bench. Complete and utter fucking waste.

[weeniebeenie]

Annoying thing about playing Gerrard out wide-right is that he's taking someone elses place, ie, Lennon. When all our midfielders are fit, he'd prefer to play Cole, Lampard, Carrick or Hargreaves and Gerrard which means Lennon has to sit on the bench. Complete and utter fucking waste.

Yep. Its stupid. He has to play 4-4-2 with Lennon.

It should be

MR. Lennon
MC. Gerrard
MC. Hargreaves/Parker/Carrick
ML. Joe Cole

He should only start with Lampard if:

a). Gerrard is injured
b). its against a weak team and we can get away with not playing the defensive midfielder.

[Captain Stu]

Yep. Its stupid. He has to play 4-4-2 with Lennon.

It should be

MR. Lennon
MC. Gerrard
MC. Hargreaves/Parker/Carrick
ML. Joe Cole

He should only start with Lampard if:

a). Gerrard is injured
b). its against a weak team and we can get away with not playing the defensive midfielder.

Good lord, I couldn't agree more. :)

However:

MC. Hargreaves/Parker/Carrick/Nolan

Big Kev definately deserves a chance, I reckon a central midfield partnership between him and Stevie could be lethal. We'd struggle to find better wingers than Cole and Lennon (with SWP on the bench to come on and replace either of them if needs be) because Cole is so good with the ball at his feet cutting inside and Lennon provides the pace and width of a natural winger.

Personally I think Nolan should be ahead of Carrick because he plays a better role in midfield than Carrick who's jsut so average. He's too anal to be an attacking midfielder but too weedy to be a defensive midfielder... he's like Didier Deschamps in his water-carrier role only much less effective.

Also, Robinson should consider himself fortunate that Kirkland asked to be excused because his wife is due to give birth this week or I reckon he would've been in with a good chance of starting. If not Kirkland, Carson should get a chance.

I swear, the dozen or so regular posters in this thread could easily have got England to at least the semi-final of the World Cup.

We should stage a football-coup and sieze back our natural team from Quiffy McNobrains.

[weeniebeenie]

Good lord, I couldn't agree more. :)

However:

MC. Hargreaves/Parker/Carrick/Nolan

Big Kev definately deserves a chance, I reckon a central midfield partnership between him and Stevie could be lethal. We'd struggle to find better wingers than Cole and Lennon (with SWP on the bench to come on and replace either of them if needs be) because Cole is so good with the ball at his feet cutting inside and Lennon provides the pace and width of a natural winger.

I swear, the dozen or so regular posters in this thread could easily have got England to at least the semi-final of the World Cup.

We should stage a football-coup and sieze back our natural team from Quiffy McNobrains.

Totally! And Nolan does deserve a chance.

And Sven coming out last weekend and saying we had too high expectations. He also fucking said we could win it.

Vive La Revolution!

[Captain Stu]

And Sven coming out last weekend and saying we had too high expectations. He also fucking said we could win it.

He srsly has no idea what the fuck he's talking about... ever.

Yeah, he blames US for expecting too much of the team, publically defended his decision to take Walcott but not use him while Defoe sits at home crying and then caps it all off by saying he did a good job overall for England:

http://www.thefa.com/England/SeniorTeam/Coaches/Postings/2003/09/SvenCoach.htm

His record is on there.

[Bexster]

Good lord, I couldn't agree more. :)

However:

MC. Hargreaves/Parker/Carrick/Nolan

Big Kev definately deserves a chance, I reckon a central midfield partnership between him and Stevie could be lethal. We'd struggle to find better wingers than Cole and Lennon (with SWP on the bench to come on and replace either of them if needs be) because Cole is so good with the ball at his feet cutting inside and Lennon provides the pace and width of a natural winger.

Personally I think Nolan should be ahead of Carrick because he plays a better role in midfield than Carrick who's jsut so average. He's too anal to be an attacking midfielder but too weedy to be a defensive midfielder... he's like Didier Deschamps in his water-carrier role only much less effective.

Also, Robinson should consider himself fortunate that Kirkland asked to be excused because his wife is due to give birth this week or I reckon he would've been in with a good chance of starting. If not Kirkland, Carson should get a chance.

I swear, the dozen or so regular posters in this thread could easily have got England to at least the semi-final of the World Cup.

We should stage a football-coup and sieze back our natural team from Quiffy McNobrains.
They should split his wages between us - we'd be doing it for the love of the job :D

Agree about Nolan. This would be the perfect opportunity for him tonight to get a game without any pressure and show what he can do. And there's no harm in having SWP start if that's the way he's going to go. Holland are a team you've got to attack right from the start, despite the fact that they're missing a couple of key players.

Is Hargreaves out for the season? I miss him.

[Captain Stu]

They should split his wages between us - we'd be doing it for the love of the job :D

Agree about Nolan. This would be the perfect opportunity for him tonight to get a game without any pressure and show what he can do. And there's no harm in having SWP start if that's the way he's going to go. Holland are a team you've got to attack right from the start, despite the fact that they're missing a couple of key players.

Is Hargreaves out for the season? I miss him.

I'd do the job for the same wage as I get now, it's not like it's real fecking work being paid to travel the country/world and watch football matches! :D

Too right about tonight, it would be so perfect for Nolan because it's a game he could really dig his heels in and get stuck into. The Dutch threat is gonna come from their creative midfielders like Van Persie linking up with Kuyt (in good form) and Van Nistelhorse (in absolutely amazing form). We need a fecking ball winner and Nolan is definately one of those.

I think Hargreaves is due back in training soon, they reckon he'll be fit before christmas at the last I heard, ie, ready to undertake a medical at United before the January transfer window closes.

[Bexster]

I'd do the job for the same wage as I get now, it's not like it's real fecking work being paid to travel the country/world and watch football matches! :D

Too right about tonight, it would be so perfect for Nolan because it's a game he could really dig his heels in and get stuck into. The Dutch threat is gonna come from their creative midfielders like Van Persie linking up with Kuyt (in good form) and Van Nistelhorse (in absolutely amazing form). We need a fecking ball winner and Nolan is definately one of those.

I think Hargreaves is due back in training soon, they reckon he'll be fit before christmas at the last I heard, ie, ready to undertake a medical at United before the January transfer window closes.
Well good news for us is that Van Persie's not playing. His wife's about to drop sprog any moment, so he's chosen not to travel.

Bad news is that's about all that's going for us. And Van Nistlehorse is going to be on such a high after the weekend.

[weeniebeenie]

Yeah, he blames US for expecting too much of the team, publically defended his decision to take Walcott but not use him while Defoe sits at home crying and then caps it all off by saying he did a good job overall for England:


Exactly! "Defoe had a bad season in the Premiership"!. At least he fucking had a season! Walcott (who looks like he will be shit hot) didnt play a game. Sven is a twat. Even if he didnt like Defoe then he should have taken Bent.

Also, I still dont get why Jenas gets in the squad. Sure hes good but he will never play.

[weeniebeenie]

Well good news for us is that Van Persie's not playing. His wife's about to drop sprog any moment, so he's chosen not to travel.

Bad news is that's about all that's going for us. And Van Nistlehorse is going to be on such a high after the weekend.

I bet he bloody scores.

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

Lennon was gonna start on the right tonight until he withdrew with injury.

[Bexster]

I bet he bloody scores.
Yup. No bet there.

Walcott will be shit hot. Definite. And Sven will never be big enough to admit he made huge mistakes this summer. Also definite. I will never be able to understand most of his choices in squad selection or match tactics.

[Captain Stu]

Well good news for us is that Van Persie's not playing. His wife's about to drop sprog any moment, so he's chosen not to travel.

Bad news is that's about all that's going for us. And Van Nistlehorse is going to be on such a high after the weekend.

No Van Persie, yay! Van Nistelrooy in some of the best form of his career, uh oh. :( The horse will score, a tap-in from inside the 6-yard box.

Exactly! "Defoe had a bad season in the Premiership"!. At least he fucking had a season! Walcott (who looks like he will be shit hot) didnt play a game. Sven is a twat. Even if he didnt like Defoe then he should have taken Bent.

Also, I still dont get why Jenas gets in the squad. Sure hes good but he will never play.

Jermaine Jenas is there to make everyone else feel better about their own ability. By comaprison, even the Neville's look like fecking Pele. :D

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I reckon in a year or two, Walcott will be weened into the team to ultimately replace Henry.

[Captain Stu]

Also, in the New Football Order - the team shall be picked by a majority decision.

£50 says we could win a major tournament within the next 4 years.

[weeniebeenie]

Also, in the New Football Order - the team shall be picked by a majority decision.

£50 says we could win a major tournament within the next 4 years.

Definitely! We should send a collective resume to the FA. It would include this thread, Pro Evo stats etc.

[weeniebeenie]

Jermaine Jenas is there to make everyone else feel better about their own ability. By comaprison, even the Neville's look like fecking Pele.

Evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQftH7FtmXI)

[Captain Stu]

Definitely! We should send a collective resume to the FA. It would include this thread, Pro Evo stats etc.

Ooh and Champ Manager stats too.

Evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQftH7FtmXI)

Gonna check that when I get home, YouTube is blocked, but I'm betting it's an open-goal miss from Jenas... possibly his one against Newcastle? Or Liverpool?

[weeniebeenie]

Gonna check that when I get home, YouTube is blocked, but I'm betting it's an open-goal miss from Jenas... possibly his one against Newcastle? Or Liverpool?

Yep the Liverpool one. It was pathetic (although good news for you).

[Captain Stu]

Yep the Liverpool one. It was pathetic (although good news for you).

I laughed at that... lots and lots and lots.

I used to be a fan of Jenas but, like so many, his promise got the better of him and now he's the new Danny Murphy.

[Wish_Master2100]

Van Nistlerooy isn't in the squad is he?

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

I used to be a fan of Jenas but, like so many, his promise got the better of him and now he's the new Danny Murphy.

At times he can look like quite a classy player but then other times he's completely invisible.

He's looked good for us in the Uefa Cup but his decent performances in the league are few and far between.

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

Evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQftH7FtmXI)

That miss was awful..and then Liverpool went down the other end and scored straight after.

That infuriated me big time.

[Wish_Master2100]

He's looked good for us in the Uefa Cup but his decent performances in the league are few and far between.

You could say that about Newcastle United.

[Captain Stu]

You could say that about Newcastle United.

lolz.

[Captain Stu]

Aaahhhhh good show, a nice 4-4-2.

Micah Richards is now England's youngest ever defender, fucking good on him. :)

Also, Ruud's not playing, it's Kuyt flanked by Robben and Van Der Vaart I think.

[EvilElvis]

GK. Cudicini (Chelsea)
DL. Bridge (Chelsea)
DC. Bogarde (Chelsea)
DC.
DR.
ML. McManaman (Real Madrid era)
MC. Djemba Djemba (Villa)
MR. Shaun Wright-Phillips (Chelsea)
CF. Owen (Real Madrid era also)
CF. Saviola (Barcelona)
CF. Carlton Cole (Chelsea and West Ham)

[EvilElvis]

Lolz @ Dowie - Hint for David Murray, even though he has stated that he would "Walk naked from London to Glasgow to manage Rangers" - Not good enough for Charlton, 15 games compared to Curbs 15 years, not good enough at Ibrox.


Partick Thistle, are interested in bringin Richard Gough to Firhill at 44! :eek: Good for the youth system there!


Edit: It's kicked off at Hearts. Again.

Another new coach, Captain has been stripped of captaincy and refused to play on monday night.


"The press don't know half of whats going on at Tynecastle" is a story I've heard.

[Ian Mc]

GK. Cudicini (Chelsea)
DL. Bridge (Chelsea)
DC. Bogarde (Chelsea)
DC.
DR.
ML. McManaman (Real Madrid era)
MC. Djemba Djemba (Villa)
MR. Shaun Wright-Phillips (Chelsea)
CF. Owen (Real Madrid era also)
CF. Saviola (Barcelona)
CF. Carlton Cole (Chelsea and West Ham)

How about the season Patrick Kluivert played for us? He rarely started a game.
Robbie Keane at Inter Milan could probably go in there too.

[Captain Stu]

How about the season Patrick Kluivert played for us? He rarely started a game.

Deffo! We're gonna have to try the sexy, but untested, 3-4-4 formation it seems. :D

GK. Cudicini (Chelsea)
DL. Bridge (Chelsea)
DC. Bogarde (Chelsea)
DR.
ML. McManaman (Real Madrid era)
MC. Djemba Djemba (Villa)
MR. Shaun Wright-Phillips (Chelsea)
CF. Owen (Real Madrid era also)
CF. Saviola (Barcelona)
CF. Carlton Cole (Chelsea and West Ham)
CF: Patrick Kluivert (Newcastle)

[Captain Stu]

Oh for fucks sake, Holland do NOT deserve that goal one bit, they've been absolutely pathetic tonight.

Richardson in an England shirt again? Also pathetic.

Richards has played bloody bloody well tonight but yet another example of horrendously dodgy keeping from Robinson.

[Captain Stu]

FUCKFUCKFUCK!! That chance for Gerrard was close, fucking brilliant move that right from the free-kick, you could see it was going somewhere, that's obviously something that's been practised in some part.

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

I'm not sure whats happened to Robbo tbh. Last season at at Spurs he was probably our most consistent performer. I bigged him up quite abit before the WC, he started to look dodgy then and he's carried that into this season.

Whats worrying is he's starting to be dodgy for Spurs now. Case in point, last sunday against Reading.

[Captain Stu]

And it couldn't be at a worse time with Carson and Kirkland hitting some good, consistent form.

[EvilElvis]

And it couldn't be at a worse time with Carson and Kirkland hitting some good, consistent form.

Isn't Carson on loan at Charlton?


Will he return to his own club now Dowie's gone?

[Captain Stu]

Isn't Carson on loan at Charlton?

Will he return to his own club now Dowie's gone?

He is, aye, and he's playing bloody well... it's not his fault that the entire rest of the Charlton squad (apart from Bent) sucks poophole.

Doubt it, unless there are any rumours in the talk that Valencia want Reina to replace Canizares.

[EvilElvis]

He is, aye, and he's playing bloody well... it's not his fault that the entire rest of the Charlton squad (apart from Bent) sucks poophole.

Doubt it, unless there are any rumours in the talk that Valencia want Reina to replace Canizares.

Wasn't sure what the deal was with loan players when the manager that signs them is sacked.

From memory of playing champ manager they just return to their old club.

[Captain Stu]

Wasn't sure what the deal was with loan players when the manager that signs them is sacked.

From memory of playing champ manager they just return to their old club.

Don't think so, as far as I know it's a proper temporary contract for a set amount of time unless the club the player is contracted too asks for a recall in which case the other club still has to agree to it, the contract club can't just pull them back.

So, I think Carson's there until June.

[Ian Mc]

Well when Souness was sacked from Newcastle last season, James Milner stayed at Villa, it works just like a transfer does, it has nothing to do with the manager.
As Stu said, it's a proper contract.

[EvilElvis]

Well when Souness was sacked from Newcastle last season, James Milner stayed at Villa, it works just like a transfer does, it has nothing to do with the manager.
As Stu said, it's a proper contract.


Good point well made.

I just remember getting players on loan and they returned when the managers were sacked.

[Captain Stu]

I think the loan agreements changed a few years ago when the transfer window bollocks came in and the new contract laws passed.

Now, a loan is a temporary (yet permanent for the duration) agreement. :)

[Ian Mc]

Good point well made.

I just remember getting players on loan and they returned when the managers were sacked.

Most newly appointed managers are likely to recall players that are out on loan (if they are allowed) for various reasons.

[Ian Mc]

I think the loan agreements changed a few years ago when the transfer window bollocks came in and the new contract laws passed.

Now, a loan is a temporary (yet permanent for the duration) agreement. :)

Yeah, I think you're right.
It's only in the last few seasons that premiership teams can loan players to eachother.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Definitely! We should send a collective resume to the FA. It would include this thread, Pro Evo stats etc.

it'd only get ruined by me and wshmaster picking Steve Claridge, Tony Craig and Leke Odunsi

[Captain Stu]

Why you gotta ruin the communal dream? :(

[Captain Stu]

Oohhh yay! Some good news! :)

Steven Gerrard has revealed that he is likely to get the chance to operate in the centre of midfield for Liverpool.

England star Gerrard has been asked to play in a number of different positions by Rafa Benitez in the last couple of seasons, but an injury to Mohamed Sissoko has opened the door for a return to the centre of the park.
Gerrard again played on the right against Arsenal on Sunday, with Boudewijn Zenden filling in for Sissoko, but the club's captain has revealed that he will get his chance to shine in the middle in the near future.


"I spoke to Benitez and he said I will get a lot more time in the middle now Sissoko is out injured," Gerrard told Sky Sports News.

Liverpool travel to Middlesbrough at the weekend and Gerrard is looking for The Reds to show improvement on the road.
He added: "We need to start picking up performances on the road for Liverpool, so we look forward to the game on Saturday."

Well it's about fucking time. Gonzalez, Alonso, Gerrard and Pennant - do it and we start winning games.

[weeniebeenie]

it'd only get ruined by me and wshmaster picking Steve Claridge, Tony Craig and Leke Odunsi

Selection depends on a majority vote! Me, Stu and Bex outnumber you! :p

The same reason I wont be able to get any Bristol City players in the team!

[Captain Stu]

As long as there's no place for either of the Neville's or Jenas and in squad and no Fatty in the starting XI, I bet we'd be fine. :D

[weeniebeenie]

As long as there's no place for either of the Neville's or Jenas and in squad and no Fatty in the starting XI, I bet we'd be fine. :D

Or a 4-3-3 formation!

[Captain Stu]

*shudder*

Or, omgz, da 4-4-2 DIAMOND!!! *barf*

[weeniebeenie]

*shudder*

Or, omgz, da 4-4-2 DIAMOND!!! *barf*

Tis agreed. Watch out McLaren!

[Captain Stu]

Bagsy not being the one with the dodgy hair.

[Captain Stu]

Wes Brown and John O'Shea could be used as makeweights in Manchester United's bid to sign Owen Hargreaves from Bayern Munich. (Daily Star)

Southampton boss George Burley will spark a Premiership bidding war after being told he must sell £7m-rated left-back Gareth Bale. (Daily Mirror)

Real Madrid claim they have beaten Chelsea in the race to sign 18-year-old River Plate star Gonzalo Higuain. (Daily Mirror)

Fulham are set to make a £2m bid for USA World Cup star Clint Dempsey. (Daily Mirror)

Arsene Wenger has given Birmingham permission to keep young Arsenal striker Nicklas Bendtner on loan until the end of the season. (Daily Mail)

Coventry are chasing winger Darren Currie from Championship rivals Ipswich. Dele Adebola could go the other way. (The Sun)

Wolves boss Mick McCarthy is planning a double raid on Scunthorpe strikers Billy Sharp and Andy Keogh. (Daily Mirror)

Leeds have rejected Tranmere's bid to take striker Jermaine Beckford on loan. (The Sun)

Boss Dennis Wise wants to land Southampton defender Darren Powell in a £150,000 swoop. (Daily Star)

Portsmouth midfielder David Thompson has turned down a loan move to Leeds. (Daily Star)

Crystal Palace boss Peter Taylor says midfielder Tommy Black can leave on loan, with Brentford and Bradford interested. (The Sun)

Taylor also wants to ship out eccentric Hungarian goalkeeper Gabor Kiraly. (Daily Mirror)

Rangers winger Chris Burke has postponed contract talks until after the next transfer window opens. (Daily Record)


OTHER GOSSIP

Clubs promoted to the Premiership in May will be guaranteed a windfall of £50m. (The Sun)

England will open next season at the new Wembley Stadium with a friendly against Germany on 22 August. (Daily Mail)

Didier Drogba says he aims to fire Chelsea to glory in the Premiership, FA Cup, League Cup and Champions League this season. (The Sun)

Portsmouth assistant manager Tony Adams has branded Watford long-ball merchants and says they play like the late 1980s Wimbledon team. (The Sun)

Watford boss Aidy Boothroyd fears it will be hard to attract a striker to the club in January if they are still struggling in the Premiership. (Daily Express)

Allan McGregor has won his battle with Lionel Letizi to hold on to the position as Rangers first-choice keeper. (Daily Record)


AND FINALLY...

Oldham fans hoping to see a bit more of 19-year-old midfielder Chris Hall will get their chance when he appears in a charity production of The Full Monty.
Stuart Pearce's technical area has been replaced with artificial grass, after the Manchester City manager wore it out.

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- If true, lolz at Brown, O'Shit and Chelsea.
- Gareth Bale is awesome, I'd fully expect about 6 Premiership teams to fancy him.
- £50M?! Sweet zombie Jesus.
- lolz at the story about Pearce. :)

[Captain Stu]

This weekends fixtures, get predicting!!

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL WIN]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA WIN]
Everton v Bolton [DRAW]
Man City v Fulham [DRAW]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL WIN]
Portsmouth v Watford [PORTSMOUTH WIN]
Reading v Charlton [READING WIN]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD WIN...although I think a draw isn't completely impossible]

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [TOTTENHAM WIN]
Wigan v Aston Villa [ASTON VILLA WIN]

Gawd, I really hate Watford.

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

Why do San Marino even enter these qualifiers? GD is -25 after 3 games. It's a fucking joke.

[Captain Stu]

Why do San Marino even enter these qualifiers? GD is -25 after 3 games. It's a fucking joke.

lollerz, £100 says I'd score on my England debut against San Marino.

Also, Van Basten - as much as I love the guy - is a stubborn prick for not picking Van Nistelrooy because they had some falling out. The only consolation he has is that Kuyt is fucking awesome... but, for me, the Dutch performance last night was absolutely pathetic. I think it was Lawro the Nazi who summed it up best when he said "I've never seen a Dutch team that couldn't pass the ball before"... the formation was utter garbage, especially seeing as how Robben NEVER covers back and left the left-back completely exposed. If they changed to a nice 4-4-2 with Kuyt and Van Nistelrooy up front - that'd be killer.

[Bexster]

*shudder*

Or, omgz, da 4-4-2 DIAMOND!!! *barf*
Stuff you lot. I want a christmas tree formation.


Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA]
Everton v Bolton [EVERTON]
Man City v Fulham [DRAW]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL]
Portsmouth v Watford [DRAW]
Reading v Charlton [READING]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD]

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [DRAW]
Wigan v Aston Villa [VILLA]

[Bexster]

lollerz, £100 says I'd score on my England debut against San Marino.
I'd give you £100 for that.

[Captain Stu]

Stuff you lot. I want a christmas tree formation.

Nyaw, how festive.

Well I wanna play the unconventional and slightly risqué 2-3-5 formation. :D

Carragher and Terry at the back, a midfield of Nolan, Gerrard and Parker and then a front-line of Rooney, Crouch, Cole, Lennon and me. :cool:

[Obiwan]

Can anyone tell me how 2 centre halfs and a "stricker"? all 6 foot plus , can go into an aireal ( cant spell) challenge from a throw in for fucks sake, against a little dude with clogs on, and still get beat to the ball resulting in a goal, then they all turn round and throw a wobbly at Mr Robinson. Why cant these overpaid fucks take responsibility for there own actions.:confused:

Every one watching would say okay far play , if one of them turned round and said "sorry lads my fault ":mad:

[Captain Stu]

Jan Venegoor of Hesselink isn't exactly short, he's about 6'3" and 6'4" and I thought he won the header very well, it was the second ball that we should've won because Robinson should have come out and either caught it or, for safety, given it a big punch and clear the danger.

[Bexster]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/reading/6153958.stm

Police are investigating death threats made to the Reading players involved in incidents in which Chelsea keepers Petr Cech and Carlo Cudicini were injured.

Ibrahima Sonko and Stephen Hunt have received a series of letters at the club's Arborfield training ground.

Thames Valley Police said: "The club is helping us with our inquiry and the matter is being investigated."

A Chelsea spokesman added: "There is nothing to suggest these threats came from genuine Chelsea fans."

According to the Reading Chronicle newspaper, one letter said: "We are going to kill you for what you did to our players."

Reading players treated the first letter as a joke and pinned it up on the door of the training ground dressing-room.

But when subsequent letters arrived, players were told to treat the threats seriously and the club called in the police to investigate.

Cech is not expected to play again this season after sustaining a fractured skull in a first-minute collision with Hunt in the game at the Madejski stadium.

Cudicini needed oxygen after being stretchered off in a last-minute collision with Sonko, and only recently returned to action.

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho hit out at Hunt's challenge, but neither Hunt nor Sonko faced any sanction from the Football Association.

Winger Hunt, on international duty with the Republic of Ireland, said: "The club is dealing with all my letters and I don't want to say any more."

Sonko confirmed he had received a letter but made no further comment.

Chelsea's spokesman added: "Naturally, we condemn any threats of this nature and we will assist the police fully if - and we stress if - there is any evidence linking theses threats to any of our supporters."

Bloody harsh that is.

Nyaw, how festive.

Well I wanna play the unconventional and slightly risqué 2-3-5 formation.

Carragher and Terry at the back, a midfield of Nolan, Gerrard and Parker and then a front-line of Rooney, Crouch, Cole, Lennon and me.
I'd vote for that. Can't be any worse than anything that's already been done.

[Captain Stu]

Death-threats? For fucking accidents? Bloody stupid cunts.

[**dylan**]

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA]
Everton v Bolton [BOLTON]
Man City v Fulham [MAN CITY]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL]
Portsmouth v Watford [PORTSMOUTH]
Reading v Charlton [READING]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD]

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [DRAW]
Wigan v Aston Villa [DRAW]

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Selection depends on a majority vote! Me, Stu and Bex outnumber you! :p

The same reason I wont be able to get any Bristol City players in the team!

i'll vote for Scott Murray if you vote for Steve Claridge

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Errr.... i can't see Bayern Munich wanting Wes Brownhole and John o'Shit

[Bexster]

Errr.... i can't see Bayern Munich wanting Wes Brownhole and John o'Shit
Me neither. It's hardly a fair swap.

[weeniebeenie]

i'll vote for Scott Murray if you vote for Steve Claridge

Fair play. Im sure Murray is better than Joe Cole anyway.

[weeniebeenie]

Stuff you lot. I want a christmas tree formation.


Sorry. I'm afraid we have hired Mike Newell as a coach. He says you have no business in football. :p

[Captain Stu]

Sorry. I'm afraid we have hired Mike Newell as a coach. He says you have no business in football. :p

pwn3d.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL WIN] - at least I hope so, otherwise I'm going to get lynched as I have a seat in the middle of all the season ticket holders.
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA WIN]
Everton v Bolton [EVERTON]
Man City v Fulham [MAN CITY]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL WIN]
Portsmouth v Watford [PORTSMOUTH WIN]
Reading v Charlton [DRAW]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD WIN

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [BLACKBURN WIN]
Wigan v Aston Villa [DRAW]

[Bexster]

Sorry. I'm afraid we have hired Mike Newell as a coach. He says you have no business in football. :p
Fuck :mad:

I'd love to see him say that to Karen Brady's face. She'd 'ave im.

[Captain Stu]

I'd love to see him say that to Karen Brady's face. She'd 'ave im.

She'd just bonk him. :D

[Bexster]

She'd just bonk him. :D
Either way he'd come off worse.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Karren Brady is a mongy two-bob cunt

[Captain Stu]

Either way he'd come off worse.

Hahaha... quite.

Karren Brady is a mongy two-bob cunt

You wouldn't kick her out of bed.

[Casino King]

Call me a weirdo, but I've been wondering this for a long time.

When is the off-season for an average English Premier football player? How long is it? Doesn't seem that long.

Still can't wrap my head around the UEFA Champions League and what it actually entails.

Hey, I watch when I can, fellas.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Call me a weirdo, but I've been wondering this for a long time.

When is the off-season for an average English Premier football player? How long is it? Doesn't seem that long.

Still can't wrap my head around the UEFA Champions League and what it actually entails.

Hey, I watch when I can, fellas.

Mid May to mid July is the offseason, pre-season starts then. Full season starts in August.

Champions league is the best placed teams from every European league in a big play-off competition.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Champions league is the best placed teams from every European league in a big play-off competition.

Which also runs alongside all the european leagues domestic season, apart from places like Sweden and Norway who have their domestic seasons in the summer

[weeniebeenie]

Mid May to mid July is the offseason, pre-season starts then. Full season starts in August.

Champions league is the best placed teams from every European league in a big play-off competition.

Also, there is the World Cup and European Championship every four years (World Cup: 2006, 2010, 2014 etc, European Championships: 2008, 2012, 2016 etc). These are conducted during the offseason and means that the Premiership players that represent their countries (and there are a lot of them) get even less time off during those years.

[Renegades of funk 8]

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL WIN]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA WIN]
Everton v Bolton [DRAW]
Man City v Fulham [DRAW] i can see us winning that to be fair
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL WIN]
Portsmouth v Watford [PORTSMOUTH WIN]
Reading v Charlton [DRAW]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD WIN

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [DRAW]
Wigan v Aston Villa [DRAW]

[EvilElvis]

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL WIN]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA WIN]
Everton v Bolton [DRAW]
Man City v Fulham [DRAW]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL WIN]
Portsmouth v Watford [PORTSMOUTH WIN]
Reading v Charlton [READING WIN]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD WIN

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [DRAW]
Wigan v Aston Villa [ASTON VILLA WIN]

[Wish_Master2100]

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL WIN]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA WIN]
Everton v Bolton [EVERTON WIN]
Man City v Fulham [MAN CITY WIN]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL WIN]
Portsmouth v Watford [DRAW]
Reading v Charlton [DRAW]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD WIN

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [SPURS]
Wigan v Aston Villa [ASTON VILLA WIN]

[Bud]

Can't beat Chelsea fans (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/reading/6153958.stm)

[Captain Stu]

Can't beat Chelsea fans (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/reading/6153958.stm)

It's fun trying though... with baseball bats and cinder blocks.

[Captain Stu]

Bye bye, Puskas. (http://bbs.foofighters.com/showthread.php?p=1743101#post1743101) :(

[Bexster]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6157110.stm

Gerrard set to get central role

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard has revealed he is set to finally be handed a central midfield role.
Manager Rafael Benitez has deployed Gerrard on the right flank, prompting reports of a rift between the pair.

Bolo Zenden was preferred in central midfield in the 3-0 defeat at Arsenal, even with Momo Sissoko out injured.

But Gerrard said ahead of the match at Middlesbrough: "I spoke with Benitez and he said I would get a lot more time in the middle now Sissoko is out."

Gerrard also figured in the centre in England's 1-1 draw against Holland in Amsterdam.

He then took the opportunity to stress his preference for the centre rather than on the right flank, a move by Benitez that has been a source of debate as Liverpool have struggled in the Premiership.

Gerrard said: "I always enjoy it there in the middle. That's where I feel I can get the best out of myself.

"The formation worked and the positive thing is we know we can use another formation now with 4-3-3 as well as 4-4-2.

"We need to build on this performance for the next qualifier."
Surely this is a little too late now to save Liverpool's season.

[Captain Stu]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6157110.stm


Surely this is a little too late now to save Liverpool's season.

Ahem, Madame Bexster, from page 281. (http://bbs.foofighters.com/showpost.php?p=1740910&postcount=5613) :D

It's a good move for Liverpool (and England if McLaren follows suit) but yeah, it's too late to save our season. We can still turn things around and ensure qualification for the Champions League but, with Arsenal now hitting form, 3rd place is a long stretch and we're probably best aiming at 4th again.

Really fucking annoyed at how our away form has cost us this season, we were tipped by nearly everyone to be the closest rivals to Chelsea this season and we've completely bollocksed it up by being so wank away from home. At Anfield, we're as great as ever but I just dunno why we can't translate that form to the away fixtures.

Oh well, hopefully this move will mean more gametime for Gonzalez and Pennant so they can settle into the team and find some form, then we'll be a team to contend with.

[Bexster]

TRANSFER RUMOURS
Fulham boss Chris Coleman is preparing to make a move for PSV and Finland striker Mika Vayrynen. (Daily Express)

USA teenager Freddy Adu says he is desperate to land a full-time move to Manchester United. (Daily Express)

Bournemouth boss Kevin Bond wants to raid old club Southampton for Simon Gillett on loan. (Daily Star)

Gillingham boss Ronnie Jepson has received a £250,000 bid from an unnamed club for winger Matt Jarvis. (Daily Mirror)

Agent Willie McKay has blasted Hibs for paying Kevin Thomson and Scott Brown "buttons" and yet trying to price them out of a move to Rangers, who are set to make a joint bid. (Daily Record)

David Hannah could be set to snub Elgin to join his former Dundee United team-mate Brian Welsh at Cowdenbeath. (Daily Record)


Back to top

OTHER GOSSIP
A massive £235m takeover is being lined up for Newcastle United, including a property deal worth £95m, from Jersey-based Belgravia Group. (Daily Express)

Chelsea's John Terry says referee Graham Poll swore at him during their defeat at Tottenham. (The Sun)

Furious ex-Charlton boss Iain Dowie is convinced he was stabbed in the back by his former assistant Les Reed. (Daily Mirror)

Ronaldinho has given Frank Lampard his golden seal of approval to join him at Barcelona. (The Sun)

Arsene Wenger is understood to have been furious that France played Thierry Henry and Williams Gallas for 90 minutes in Wednesday's friendly with Greece. (Daily Star)

Boro's George Boateng has told Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez he will be doing his team a favour if he plays Steven Gerrard wide on the right. (Daily Star)

Luiz Felipe Scolari has accused Man Utd assistant Carlos Queiroz of wanting his job as Portugal coach. (The Sun)

Wolves striker Carl Cort could face yet more knee surgery. (The Sun)


Back to top

AND FINALLY...
Arsenal's Freddie Ljungberg, who has a food intolerance, is recovering after being struck down by eating a bit of cheese. (The Sun)


I love The Sun and their wording. 'Golden seal of approval'?? Because obviously, Ronaldinho runs the club...

[Bexster]

Ahem, Madame Bexster, from page 281. (http://bbs.foofighters.com/showpost.php?p=1740910&postcount=5613) :D

It's a good move for Liverpool (and England if McLaren follows suit) but yeah, it's too late to save our season. We can still turn things around and ensure qualification for the Champions League but, with Arsenal now hitting form, 3rd place is a long stretch and we're probably best aiming at 4th again.

Really fucking annoyed at how our away form has cost us this season, we were tipped by nearly everyone to be the closest rivals to Chelsea this season and we've completely bollocksed it up by being so wank away from home. At Anfield, we're as great as ever but I just dunno why we can't translate that form to the away fixtures.

Oh well, hopefully this move will mean more gametime for Gonzalez and Pennant so they can settle into the team and find some form, then we'll be a team to contend with.
Ah see, I only went back to 282 to look for it :D

I can't get my head around Liverpool bolloxing it up like this. It shouldn't have happened.

But you never know. Chelski could blink out of existence...

[Captain Stu]

Ronaldinho can get to bollocks. Kaka > Ronaldinho.

And £235M for Newcastle?! *lolzesselftodeath*

[Captain Stu]

Ah see, I only went back to 282 to look for it :D

I can't get my head around Liverpool bolloxing it up like this. It shouldn't have happened.

But you never know. Chelski could blink out of existence...

You're absolutely right, it never should have gone down like this. :(

Benitez has tried too soon to recreate his old Valencia team by building it around Sissoko in the middle instead of building it around Gerrard as any sane person would have. The strange thing is that Gonzalez, Alonso, Gerrard and Pennant is pretty much the exact same style of team that he's used to - an attacking midfielder, a defensive midfielder and two line-hugging, pacy wingers.

I love Dirk Kuyt.

[Captain Stu]

- Apparently, we're after some young Argie-Italian striker... that'd be the end of Fowler (again) I think.
- This stuff about Reina, he's not contracted 'til the end of the season as the stupid BBC reported, he's tied down until 2009.

I like talking about my team. :)

Bit of a weird one the other day at Real Madrid, in line with Capello rebuilding the weak areas of the team - they signed very hotly-tipped Brazilian left-back, Marcelo, but then farm him off on loan to Racing Santander and give Roberto Carlos a new contract despite him being more over-rated than ever and the age of 34 (I think). :confused:

Also, apparently, Flamengo want to sign Fat Ron (which I could see happening) and Real want Kaka to join from Milan! :eek: That would be absolutely unholy!!

[Renegades of funk 8]

ookie


i think i read that you started a group on pro evo the other day - how do you join and whats the name of the group. Has anyone else joined?

[Bexster]

I like talking about my team. :)
Do you? Do you really?

Bit of a weird one the other day at Real Madrid, in line with Capello rebuilding the weak areas of the team - they signed very hotly-tipped Brazilian left-back, Marcelo, but then farm him off on loan to Racing Santander and give Roberto Carlos a new contract despite him being more over-rated than ever and the age of 34 (I think). :confused:
I laughed when they extended his contract. What a waste of money

Also, apparently, Flamengo want to sign Fat Ron (which I could see happening) and Real want Kaka to join from Milan! :eek: That would be absolutely unholy!!
God no. He shouldn't leave Milan, but if he does, he should come to Arsenal.

[Captain Stu]

If Kaka came to Arsenal... hell, if Kaka came to England... I'd fill my pants.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

ookie


i think i read that you started a group on pro evo the other day - how do you join and whats the name of the group. Has anyone else joined?

once you join a lobby, there should be an option called 'groups' and you should be able to search for a group. the one i made is aclled 'FooBoard' (dunno if caps sensitive) hopefully you should be able to find it and join it...

i dunno if anyone else has joined i haven't checked it yet, but reading the manual there's a handy group rankings table as well, so we can see who's the best out of us lot :cool:

[Bexster]

If Kaka came to Arsenal... hell, if Kaka came to England... I'd fill my pants.
As would I. If he came to Arse, I'd possibly never stop smiling. Ever.

[weeniebeenie]

As would I. If he came to Arse, I'd possibly never stop smiling. Ever.

Pah, he'll be coming to Bristol City! We already have a Brazilian goalie (not the best position to have a Brazilian), and they'll get on like a house on fire.

[Bexster]

once you join a lobby, there should be an option called 'groups' and you should be able to search for a group. the one i made is aclled 'FooBoard' (dunno if caps sensitive) hopefully you should be able to find it and join it...

i dunno if anyone else has joined i haven't checked it yet, but reading the manual there's a handy group rankings table as well, so we can see who's the best out of us lot :cool:
I'll join at christmas.

Ooks, I remember you mentioning a while back about buying something to download updates on your pc for the PS2. Can you tell me what it is, and where to go for updates. Ta.

[Bexster]

Pah, he'll be coming to Bristol City! We already have a Brazilian goalie (not the best position to have a Brazilian), and they'll get on like a house on fire.
We had a Brazillian defender until the end of last season. Probably explains why Exeter are conference...

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I'll join at christmas.

Ooks, I remember you mentioning a while back about buying something to download updates on your pc for the PS2. Can you tell me what it is, and where to go for updates. Ta.

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=44245

This is where i got my update from, i think it's a pretty good file, although Stu seems to have had bad luck with it.... although to be fair onall the PES forums i've been on there seems to be no other problems....

(once you get the hang of it there are plenty of other files to try here (http://www.pesgaming.com/home.php?page=optionfiles))

wat you need to transfer it is one of these (http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation2/4-/1008717/Max_Drive_128MB/Product.html) which is basicaly like a usb flash drive that works with your PS2. you use the disc that comes with it and transfer or 'uncrush' the option file on to your memory card :)

[Captain Stu]

It worked second time round, it just decided to fuck my memory card right in the arse before doing so. :)

Right, I am in serious need of some help and guidance relating to PES6. My mad skillz from 5 aren't transferring over and I need to improve. Any links to help threads or whatevs would be greatly appreciated.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

http://forums.pesfan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=217

if you cant be arsed to register, use my login: ookie password: badbov

i just changed my password to something random, so i dont get no weirdos hacking any of my other accounts :)

[Bexster]

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=44245

This is where i got my update from, i think it's a pretty good file, although Stu seems to have had bad luck with it.... although to be fair onall the PES forums i've been on there seems to be no other problems....

(once you get the hang of it there are plenty of other files to try here (http://www.pesgaming.com/home.php?page=optionfiles))

wat you need to transfer it is one of these (http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation2/4-/1008717/Max_Drive_128MB/Product.html) which is basicaly like a usb flash drive that works with your PS2. you use the disc that comes with it and transfer or 'uncrush' the option file on to your memory card :)
Thanks. I'm not gonna do anything til after christmas when I actually get some money, but I want to update the game.

[Captain Stu]

http://forums.pesfan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=217

if you cant be arsed to register, use my login: ookie password: badbov

i just changed my password to something random, so i dont get no weirdos hacking any of my other accounts :)

Cheers Mike, I'm already registered on there from last year. :cool:

I am in dire need of a defending masterclass. :mad:

[weeniebeenie]

Cheers Mike, I'm already registered on there from last year. :cool:

I am in dire need of a defending masterclass. :mad:

You personally or Liverpool? :p

[Captain Stu]

You personally or Liverpool? :p

YOUR MA'S FACE, THAT'S WHO!! :mad:

Me.

[weeniebeenie]

YOUR MA'S FACE, THAT'S WHO!! :mad:

Me.

My ma's face is pretty bad at defending. Not Boumsong bad, but pretty awful.:(

[**dylan**]

Cheers Mike, I'm already registered on there from last year. :cool:

I am in dire need of a defending masterclass. :mad:

you can teach me to attack this weekend and i will teach you to defend. :p

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

ookie- I see Millwall have just got Charlie Lee on loan, good little player.

That reminds me, how did Ifil do during his loan spell.

[Captain Stu]

you can teach me to attack this weekend and i will teach you to defend. :p

Hahaha, deal - an exchange of Pro Evo masterskillz. :)

(It's true folks, Kat defends so sodding well on Pro Evo)

[weeniebeenie]

Hahaha, deal - an exchange of Pro Evo masterskillz. :)

(It's true folks, Kat defends so sodding well on Pro Evo)

So you can attack but not defend, and Kat can defend but not attack? A lot of 0-0's perchance?

[Captain Stu]

So you can attack but not defend, and Kat can defend but not attack? A lot of 0-0's perchance?

No, I normally win but it's tough work. :)

[**dylan**]

ive won once out of the many games we have played. i have scored more than one goal obviously, i just dont score enough.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

ookie- I see Millwall have just got Charlie Lee on loan, good little player.

That reminds me, how did Ifil do during his loan spell.

hopefully he's left sided or it's a complete waste =/

Ifil was alright considering we were doomed to relegation as soon as the season started, at first he was getting caught out too far forward, but that was soon taught out of him. he's a good little player, didn't think he as anything special though. although saying that i said the same about Glen Johnson, and 3 months later Chelsea bought him, so you never know!

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL WIN]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA WIN]
Everton v Bolton [EVERTON]
Man City v Fulham [MAN CITY]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL WIN]
Portsmouth v Watford [PORTSMOUTH WIN]
Reading v Charlton [CHARLTON]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD WIN]

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [DRAW]
Wigan v Aston Villa [VILLA]

[Wish_Master2100]

I like talking about my team. :)



We never would have guessed that.

[danlalala]

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL WIN]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA WIN]
Everton v Bolton [DRAW]
Man City v Fulham [DRAW]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL WIN]
Portsmouth v Watford [PORTSMOUTH WIN]
Reading v Charlton [READING WIN]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD WIN]

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [TOTTENHAM WIN]
Wigan v Aston Villa [VILLA WIN]

EDIT - If Kaka moved to an English club, i'd move back. :D

[timesfooall]

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL WIN]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA WIN]
Everton v Bolton [BOLTON]
Man City v Fulham [FULHAM]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [DRAW]
Portsmouth v Watford [PORTSMOUTH WIN]
Reading v Charlton [READING WIN]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD WIN]

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [DRAW]
Wigan v Aston Villa [DRAW]

[timesfooall]

PES6 is an amazing game, shame i suck so bad at it

[Bexster]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6158414.stm

Wright-Phillips sets Chelsea aim

Chelsea winger Shaun Wright-Phillips insists he is focused on earning a first-team place at Stamford Bridge.
The 25-year-old has made two starts and nine substitute outings this term with England boss Steve McClaren expressing concerns at his lack of football.

But Wright-Phillips told the club's official magazine, Chelsea: "I'm just getting on with it, getting my head down and working hard.

"I'm doing my extras, just so that when my opportunity comes, I'm ready."

He added: "I often stay behind after training and try to do a bit of everything really.

"Shooting, crossing, that kind of thing, the elements that are central to my game. It is frustrating, of course it is.

"But I always wanted to be a footballer and when you're a footballer you have to take the rough with the smooth. This is obviously a rough patch but it's down to me to make it smoother."

Wright-Phillips is putting a brave face on his lack of first-tem football since arriving at Chelsea from Manchester City in July 2005.

"People often ask how it affects my confidence but I can quite honestly say that it hasn't dented my confidence at all," he said.

"Yes, regular games help you get into your stride and can give you some much-needed rhythm.

"But it's not affected my self-belief. I've always believed in myself and what I can do.

"And that belief comes from the people I have around me, my mum, my dad, my brothers, my children, they all play their part. Despite what people might think, I'm feeling all right to be fair.

"The standard of players here at Chelsea speaks for itself. But at some time the tables have got to turn in my favour and that will only happened if I keep working hard, if I keep trying and believing.

"I can't let my head drop. And if I can keep that mindset, my time will eventually come."

Shaun. You will never get any further at that team.

Leave.

[weeniebeenie]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6158414.stm


Shaun. You will never get any further at that team.

Leave.

He'd better!

[EvilElvis]

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/74683.html


The future of the Livingston striker, Robert Snodgrass, has been called into question after he turned down the chance of a trial with Barcelona.

The 19-year-old has yet to play a match for the club this season after making an immediate impact on the SPL last term.

Injuries and reported off-field troubles have been curtailing his development.
Snodgrass, who was given time off by the Almondvale manager, John Robertson, recently after becoming a father, has already rejected moves to Blackpool and Plymouth but his decision to decline a trial spell with the European champions has stunned advisers, who fear he could disappear from the game altogether.

Allan Preston, the former Livingston manager who advises the teenager, had agreed for the agency which also deals with boxer Scott Harrison to set up the training stint at the Camp Nou.

Preston, however, believes the refusal of an opportunity most young players would jump at is symptomatic of a greater malaise in the youngster's make-up.

"If Barcelona come knocking and you turn them down, it just shows you what ambition you've got.

"If he does not watch out, the way he is going he'll end up being out of the game and another case of wasted ability.

"I don't think Robert is behaving correctly or in the right manner for a professional football player, and that is a concern for many people."

Snodgrass burst on to the SPL scene with two goals against Rangers in a 2-2 draw last October and was rewarded with a deal which is understood to make the Scotland Under-19 cap the highest earner at Livingston.

However, he could have played his last game for the West Lothian side after concerning officials with his private life, making his decision to knock back Barcelona all the more remarkable.

[EvilElvis]

I started a thread about this - but for those who missed it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/6149606.stm

Rockers to sponsor under-10 team


A Lincoln boys football team have won a sponsorship coup with a difference after striking a deal with heavy metal band Motorhead.
The Greenbank under-10s B team have the internationally renowned band's name on their shirts along with the band's motif - a skull named Snaggletooth.

The North Hykeham team also run out to the band's famous Ace of Spades track.

Team manager Gary Weight said the deal came about as he used to know lead singer Lemmy.

"It was from a bizarre idea one evening. I sent an email off to them and they came back and said it was a great idea.

The hope is that we can go out on the football pitch and terrorise the opponents

Manager Gary Weight

"I knew Lemmy years ago and for him, I think the thought of a football team running out with the Motorhead logo made him chuckle a bit, so that's where it's come from," said Mr Weight.

He is hoping the deal will draw inspired performances from his team.

"The hope is that we can go out on the football pitch and terrorise the opponents and come away worthy winners," he said.

The junior players will have a team photograph taken with the band ahead of their Rock City gig in Nottingham on 19 November.

The team, which are second in the league, also listen to other rock acts, such as the Kaiser Chiefs and Coldplay, before games.

[weeniebeenie]

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/74683.html


The future of the Livingston striker, Robert Snodgrass, has been called into question after he turned down the chance of a trial with Barcelona.

The 19-year-old has yet to play a match for the club this season after making an immediate impact on the SPL last term.

Injuries and reported off-field troubles have been curtailing his development.
Snodgrass, who was given time off by the Almondvale manager, John Robertson, recently after becoming a father, has already rejected moves to Blackpool and Plymouth but his decision to decline a trial spell with the European champions has stunned advisers, who fear he could disappear from the game altogether.

Allan Preston, the former Livingston manager who advises the teenager, had agreed for the agency which also deals with boxer Scott Harrison to set up the training stint at the Camp Nou.

Preston, however, believes the refusal of an opportunity most young players would jump at is symptomatic of a greater malaise in the youngster's make-up.

"If Barcelona come knocking and you turn them down, it just shows you what ambition you've got.

"If he does not watch out, the way he is going he'll end up being out of the game and another case of wasted ability.

"I don't think Robert is behaving correctly or in the right manner for a professional football player, and that is a concern for many people."

Snodgrass burst on to the SPL scene with two goals against Rangers in a 2-2 draw last October and was rewarded with a deal which is understood to make the Scotland Under-19 cap the highest earner at Livingston.

However, he could have played his last game for the West Lothian side after concerning officials with his private life, making his decision to knock back Barcelona all the more remarkable.

Turned down Barca! What the fuck!

Personal problems? Is that code for drugs/drinking etc?

[Bexster]

Turned down Barca! What the fuck!

Personal problems? Is that code for drugs/drinking etc?
Probably. Why else would you turn down a trial with Barca.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Probably. Why else would you turn down a trial with Barca.

maybe he prefers the scottish weather :)

[weeniebeenie]

Probably. Why else would you turn down a trial with Barca.

um.... you are a die hard member of the Livingston Real Madrid supporters association?

[Bexster]

And both would be classed as considerable problems in your private life :D

[EvilElvis]

And both would be classed as considerable problems in your private life :D


Most Livi players are ashamed to play for them - watching them is a ritual humiliation.

[Renegades of funk 8]

once you join a lobby, there should be an option called 'groups' and you should be able to search for a group. the one i made is aclled 'FooBoard' (dunno if caps sensitive) hopefully you should be able to find it and join it...

i dunno if anyone else has joined i haven't checked it yet, but reading the manual there's a handy group rankings table as well, so we can see who's the best out of us lot :cool:

found it and all but i can't join? there isn't an option to join!

arwell, i'll try again sunday

[Two-Bob Peeters]

found it and all but i can't join? there isn't an option to join!

arwell, i'll try again sunday

err there should be =/

i might need to go back and set it to 'recruiting' but i swear i've already donethat

[boxshapedheart]

Saturday, 18 November 2006
Arsenal v Newcastle [ARSENAL]
Chelsea v West Ham [CHELSEA]
Everton v Bolton [DRAW]
Man City v Fulham [MAN CITY]
Middlesbrough v Liverpool [LIVERPOOL]
Portsmouth v Watford [PORTSMOUTH]
Reading v Charlton [READING]
Sheff Utd v Man Utd [MAN UTD]

Sunday, 19 November 2006
Blackburn v Tottenham [TOTTENHAM]
Wigan v Aston Villa [DRAW]

[EvilElvis]

David Beckham's decision to attend Tom Cruise's wedding has alienated him at Real Madrid, sparking a race for his signature. (The Sun)

Watford boss Aidy Boothroyd is set to make a renewed bid for Luton winger Carlos Edwards. (The Mirror)

Swindon boss Paul Sturrock will make his son Blair, 25, his first signing for the Robins. (The Mirror)


OTHER GOSSIP
The Belgravia group will make Alan Curbishley boss if they complete their £140m takeover of Newcastle. (Daily Express)

Nigerian striker Kanu has rocked Portsmouth by claiming he wants to rejoin Ajax and take Spurs midfielder Edgar Davids with him. (Daily Express)

Icelandic businessman Eggert Magnusson will complete his £98m takeover of West Ham on Monday (Independent)

The completion of Magnusson's takeover will herald the exit of Argentine midfielders Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Upton Park. (Independent)

Portsmouth winger Rodolph Douala has told boss Harry Redknapp he wants to leave after only three months at Fratton Park. (The Mirror)

Coach John McGlynn is set to quit troubled Hearts to take over as manager at Raith Rovers. (Daily Record)

AND FINALLY...
Roy Keane will be reunited with a key figure next week when his dog Triggs moves up to the Sunderland area with the rest of the family.

[Bexster]

OTHER GOSSIP
The Belgravia group will make Alan Curbishley boss if they complete their £140m takeover of Newcastle. (Daily Express)
Good for Newcastle, without a doubt.

The completion of Magnusson's takeover will herald the exit of Argentine midfielders Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Upton Park. (Independent)
And good for West Ham. It hasn't worked at all like the people in charge thought it would. West Ham would be doing much better if that signing hadn't happened.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Right, I'm off to get lynched at the Emerates

[Bexster]

Right, I'm off to get lynched at the Emerates
Enjoy. I haven't been up there yet, but it's supposed to be very nice.

And have fun with your lynching :D

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Enjoy. I haven't been up there yet, but it's supposed to be very nice.

And have fun with your lynching :D

I shall take photos while hanging by my neck from the Armoury.

[Bexster]

I shall take photos while hanging by my neck from the Armoury.
Heh, heh. Nice. At least the view will be good.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

i wouldn't worry, the worse you'll get at Arsenal is a severe tutting

[Bexster]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6160704.stm

FA dismisses new Wembley doubts

The Football Association has dispelled fresh concerns over Wembley Stadium despite a report that says the project was close to financial collapse.
Auditors for the FA and subsidiary Wembley National Stadium Ltd are said to have had serious doubts following the row with builders Multiplex.

Despite a settlement with Multiplex, any further delays could force WNSL to renegotiate its £457m loan.

But an FA spokesman said: "We are now in a strong position to move forward."

The FA's and WNSL's auditors Deloitte and Touche reportedly had concerns over signing off the company as a going concern following the delays and long-standing dispute with Multiplex.

WSNL and Multiplex have since reached a £36m which provides assurances the stadium will open in time for next May's FA Cup final.

Despite that settlement, the accounts still express serious concerns that if the stadium is not completed by March, WNSL may have to renegotiate its bank loans.

The FA spokesman told the Daily Telegraph: "We are in a healthy financial position, events have moved on significantly since the annual report was written.

"The FA and WNSL have reached an agreement of differences with Multiplex as well as successfully renegotiating the bank loan."

Multiplex's failure to deliver the stadium by the end of September meant the FA had to renegotiate a £40m loan repayment with a syndicate of banks headed by German bank West LB.

And the Telegraph quotes WNSL directors as saying: "There exists material uncertainty that may cast significant doubt on the company's ability to continue as a going concern."

WNSL have borrowed £317m, with a further £140m loan from the FA who have also agreed a financial package for the stadium.

This involves the FA paying £23m in the stadium's first year of operation, and an annual £13m afterwards.



Ha, ha, ha, ha :D

[Two-Bob Peeters]

The only real error the FA made here is giving the contract to multiplex, who couldn't build a house out of lego. other than that, it's really been out of their hands, they should have bit the bullet and told Multiplex to sod off at the start

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

i wouldn't worry, the worse you'll get at Arsenal is a severe tutting

Yes I can see people tutting now as, at the wild chance that Newcastle actually score, I jump in the air on go "YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHOHDAMNWECONCEDEDAGOALcough oops"

[Bexster]

Yes I can see people tutting now as, at the wild chance that Newcastle actually score, I jump in the air on go "YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHOHDAMNWECONCEDEDAGOALcough oops"
Tut, tut.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

well, in comparison, i'm leaving now to go to the 'Den Of Dreams' or 'Den of Love' or whatever it's called now, to watch Millwall v Doncaster, so.....

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

well, in comparison, i'm leaving now to go to the 'Den Of Dreams' or 'Den of Love' or whatever it's called now, to watch Millwall v Doncaster, so.....

Will you be sat in the middle of the season ticket holders of the opposite team you support?

[Bexster]

Will you be sat in the middle of the season ticket holders of the opposite team you support?
That is harsh. I've done that up at Villa Park on a day when the Arse beat them 4-0. My mum and I got politely asked to be quiet by the police :o

[weeniebeenie]

That is harsh. I've done that up at Villa Park on a day when the Arse beat them 4-0. My mum and I got politely asked to be quiet by the police :o

Pah. In the US they would have tazered you!

[weeniebeenie]

Rio Ferdinand Singing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFhxraUbqrc)

From the BBC:

Over in Holland, England's players were once again flattering to deceive. Rio Ferdinand's performance was reasonably anonymous, but certainly better than the one he gave in a school musical production of Bugsy Malone, which has recently surfaced on You Tube.

[Bexster]

Pah. In the US they would have tazered you!
I know. Why I'm glad not to be in the US...

Ha, ha, ha, ha. Rio. Hmmmm... Always good for a laugh.

[Mr. Ed]

Unlucky, Fulham... two goals from Carradi. WTF?!

And also, Shaun... you're a fucking idiot. Your England career is now officially dead because of your pathetic insistence on staying at a club where you have NO future. You've fallen WELL behind Lennon in the setup.

[Bexster]

How embarrasing to have Kieron Dyer score against you :o

Arse are once again being muppets. And I bet you any money, Wenger will blame it on the tiredness of his players after the mid-week internationals.

[timesfooall]

Thank god we won that, missed sooo many chances i could see us losing.

Wait till you see ronaldos miss in about the 88th, it has to be the funniest thing ive ever seen. Ranks up there with the worst misses ever, can laugh about it now because we won :D

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

1648: Cristiano Ronaldo saves the best until last. Seriously - this one is right up there with Ronny Rosenthal in the pantheon of great misses. Ryan Giggs threads a pass through to him, Ronaldo is three yards from goal, leans back and the ball spoons up and over the bar. You couldn't make it up.



Can't wait to see this.

[EvilElvis]

Thank god we won that, missed sooo many chances i could see us losing.

Wait till you see ronaldos miss in about the 88th, it has to be the funniest thing ive ever seen. Ranks up there with the worst misses ever, can laugh about it now because we won :D

"Miss of the season" and "you can expect to see it on Soccer AM" according to Phil Thompson

[Wish_Master2100]

I went to Wembley Stadium today.

Fan.Fucking.Tastic.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Arsenal

My you gunners are a foul-mouthed bunch.

Every 15 seconds it was "OH YOU FACKING CANT" everytime the ref gave anything to us.

TO be fair, you guys were crap for 60 minutes. You had your tactics ass backwards. All this passing rubbish, I don't think you had a shot within the box from open play in the first half.

Then sometime during the second half you went to plan B. Long throughballs down the middle.

All of a sudden you get 3 million shots on goal (which you dutifully wasted).

definitly 2 points lost - you could have scored 6.

Newcastle

Ok, let's put this simple. If Arsenal had any sort of final ball we'd have been 6-0 down.

Our goal came from Kolo Toure (I think) passing the ball straight to Martins outside the box, nice turn by Dyer and good finish.

The rest of the match was spent with Peter Ramage blasting the ball into touch every five minutes, he clearly can't play left back. Bramble was great in the air, unfortunately I don't think he made one kick all match as they shot straight past him. The guy simply can't kick under pressure. His passing was also awful.

Duff did nothing. Zoggy looked much better when he came on.
Solano did nothing much, Milner looked a little better. Parker was knackered by 55 minutes and should have been subbed.

Butt spent his time play acting, topped only by Steven Taylor's theatrical dive to try and get away with the clear foul on Henry that gave away the goal.

Martins ran around like a headless chicken, Dyer did little better.

Mis-placed passes all over the place, and Given's kicks have reached an all time low (though a nice but of keepy-uppy from an awful backpass).

Moore was ok-ish at best.

Sibierski came on at some point but I don't think he ever touched the ball.

It wasn't that we were defending well - we weren't. It was Arsenal who were absolutely useless around the box. I doubt they had a shot from inside the box during the first half. It was all misplaced passes.

On GIven:Most shots either hit over the bar or directly at him. Made maybe two good saves.

[Bexster]

This is Arse's problem. All this pretty passing may look good, but I'm sure we've proved time and time again over the past two seasons that it's not going to work. That's what pisses me off. When the other team puts 11 behind the ball, we can't get our head around getting through it.

Newcastle robbed us, but it was our fault.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

ahahahahaha, WHAT A MISS!!!! :D

[Two-Bob Peeters]

I went to Wembley Stadium today.

Fan.Fucking.Tastic.

It will be the best stadium in the world for many years.

by the way, want to come Nottm Forest Away next week if i can grab a spare membership?

[weeniebeenie]

It will be the best stadium in the world for many years.

by the way, want to come Nottm Forest Away next week if i can grab a spare membership?

If you wouldn't mind beating them, then that would be great. They are pulling away.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

If you wouldn't mind beating them, then that would be great. They are pulling away.

Mate, we can't even beat Doncaster Rovers at home...

If we don't employ a proper manager soon, play a proper formation and tell the majority of our players that if they don't want to put in any effort, they can fuck off. Then it's another relegation dogfight

[weeniebeenie]

If we don't employ a proper manager soon, play a proper formation and tell the majority of our players that if they don't want to put in any effort, they can fuck off. Then it's another relegation dogfight

You talking about Milwall or England? :D

[EvilElvis]

Guess who sent me this:


Ahahaha, miss of the season! Take that you girly cunt!

[weeniebeenie]

Guess who sent me this:

I want to say God, but I'm going to say Stu.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

You talking about Milwall or England? :D

i couldn't give a fuck about England :)

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Guess who sent me this:

Carlos Quieroz's Wife?

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Walcott kept on sending in crosses! he has a lot to learn about Arsenals style of play!

[EvilElvis]

I want to say God, but I'm going to say Stu.


Yep! I got the message about 30 seconds after seeing the incident!

[EvilElvis]

Celebration of the season - Coradi's Knighting.

[Two-Bob Peeters]

Celebration of the season - Coradi's Knighting.

that was brilliant, although i'm suprised he didn't get booked!

[Two-Bob Peeters]

answer to Liverpools poor away performances.

A. PLAY CROUCH

B. Stop wearing that flourescent puke coloured kit

C. PLAY CROUCH!

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

I'm thinking of taking up a Brentford season ticket, they're just down the road from me.

[Bexster]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/women/6141952.stm

Gunners book Uefa Cup final spot
By Tony Leighton

Arsenal became the first British club to reach the Uefa Women's Cup final, beating Danish champions Brondby 3-0 for a 5-2 aggregate semi-final victory.

Goals by Rachel Yankey, Karen Carney and Julie Fleeting earned a meeting with Swedish champions Umea in the final which will be played in April.

Arsenal were without England striker Kelly Smith, scorer of both their first-leg goals, as she was suspended following her sending-off in Denmark.

But the Gunners made light of missing their star player.

Smith's England colleagues Yankey and Carney struck either side of half-time and Scotland striker Fleeting wrapped up an historic victory in stoppage time.

Manager Vic Akers said: "We're the first club from outside Germany or Scandinavia to reach the final so it's fantastic for English women's football as well as for Arsenal."


I know it's women, for all you Mike Newell-a-likes, but this is a really good step for women's football in Europe.

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

You know, yesterday I tried listening to Chelsea v West Ham on Sports Extra and it was a female commentator. She was so shit I had to turn it off. It's wrong, I tell you.

[weeniebeenie]

I love womens football. Look at the table:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/women/table/default.stm

Bristol top of the league, ahead of Arsenal and Chelsea!

If only that happened in the mens game :(

Edit: Also, look at Fulhams stats. Conceded 65 goals in 11 games! Worth watching for the lack of 0-0s!

[EvilElvis]

Sour frogs legs anyone? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6163060.stm)


Scotland have been warned about the amount of time ball boys at Hampden take to get the ball back into play.
Uefa upheld a complaint by France coach Raymond Domenech and the referee after Scotland's 1-0 win in October.

Scottish Football Association chief executive David Taylor said it was the most bizarre thing he had encountered.

"Our ball boys failed to deliver the ball back after (Gary Caldwell's) goal. The happy ending is we got off with a warning," Taylor said.

Domenech was unhappy with the conduct of the ball boys during his side's defeat on 7 October after Scotland stunned the World Cup finalists with an unexpected victory in the Euro 2008 qualifier.

Taylor said he was surprised the conduct of the ball boys had been made an issue.

"Our ball boys failed to deliver the ball back after the goal," the SFA chief executive said.

"It was in the referee's report and in the match delegate's report. The referee said the ball was not returned to play quickly enough.

"We contested that because we didn't feel it was proper. The happy ending is we got off with a warning.

"It was strange to end up with a disciplinary charge against us for it."

Taylor defended Scotland's conduct during international games and said, if anything, the side "err on the side of being sporting".

He added: "It surprised us to be charged with such an offence.

"It's the most bizarre thing I've encountered with Scotland.

"We brief the ball boys during the game. They are Queen's Park's youth players.

"We'll need to make sure before the next game, which is against Georgia at home in March, even if we're 1-0 up with five minutes to go, even if the players are saying 'do you have to give the ball back so quickly?' that they do it."

[EvilElvis]

Sir Alex Ferguson wants to land a new forward and Charlton's Darren Bent tops Manchester United's January transfer window shopping list. (Sunday Express)

Sporting Lisbon's Portuguese forward Nani is another option. (Sunday Mirror)

Arjen Robben could be on his way out of Chelsea come the season's end. The Blues are lining up a move for Lyon's Florent Malouda. (News of the World)

Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill seems ready to let Czech striker Milan Baros leave the club. (NOTW)

Liverpool are lining up a move for Rosario Central's young Argentine striker Marco Ruben to beat off competition from a host of Premiership clubs. (People)

And they will go head-to-head with Merseyside rivals Everton in January for Derby's promising youngster Giles Barnes. (People)

Liverpool's Salif Diao, who is on loan at Stoke, will not return to Anfield while Rafa Benitez is boss. (NOTW)

Manchester United have issued a "hands-off" warning to clubs interested in defender Jonny Evans. (People)

And the Red Devils may rekindle their interest in Serbian keeper Vladimir Stojkovic after he told French club Nantes he wants to leave. (People)

Manchester United's Alan Smith wants to join Bayern Munich on loan after turning down short-term deals at Everton, Newcastle and Aston Villa. (People)

Sunderland boss Roy Keane asked about his former team-mate's availability but got short shrift. (NOTW)

Instead the Black Cats hope to sign Arsenal striker Anthony Stokes on a permanent or temporary basis when his loan at Falkirk ends. (People)

Sunderland are also closing in on Sheffield United's Paul Ifill. (NOTW)

Tottenham are snifing around Lens winger Olivier Thomert. (NOTW)

But Spurs are also keen on luring Fulham's Luis Boa Morte across London in the next transfer window. (People)

US winger Clint Dempsey will choose Charlton ahead of London rivals West Ham and Fulham in January. (People)

Birmingham chief David Sullivan would "move heaven and earth" to sign Nicklas Bendtner, Sebastian Larsson and Fabrice Muamba on permanent deals from Arsenal if the Blues win promotion. (Various)

Egyptian striker Amr Zaki is dreaming of a move to England with Blackburn leading the way. (NOTW)

And Blackburn are keeping tabs on West Brom midfielder Jason Koumas. (NOTW)

Scott Brown is set to leaves Hibs in January with Wigan, Rangers, Sheffield United and Middlesbrough leading the chase for the midfielder. (People)

And Middlesbrough have lined up a £2m move for Sturm Graz midfielder Christoph Leigeb. (Mirror)

Coventry are keen on South African keeper Rowen Fernandez, who has also been linked with Boro. (Mirror)

And the Sky Blues will step up their attempts to land Ipswich winger Darren Currie on loan. (People)

Newcastle are interested in Ivory Coast midfielder Steve Gohouri, but face competition from Wigan and Rangers for the Young Boys Berne player. (NOTW)

The Magpies will offer Aston Villa James Milner in an effort to lure midfielder Steven Davis. (NOTW)

And Newcastle are lining up a £500,000 swoop for unsettled Celtic midfielder Shaun Maloney, after the player halted contract talks. (Sunday Mail)

Cardiff will look to boost their promotion push by signing Celtic's Stephen Pearson. (People)

And the Bluebirds are closing in on Luke Chambers of Northampton. (People)

Bolton may make a move for Crystal Palace midfielder Ben Watson. (NOTW)

Steve Sidwell says Reading's recent run of form makes it more likely he will stay at the club. (Various)

Leeds goalkeeper Neil Sullivan has been told by new boss Dennis Wise that he has no future at the club. (People)

Millwall are keeping tabs on Brighton boss Dean Wilkins who has yet to sign a contract at the Seagulls. (People)

Brighton may also be losing winger Dean Cox who is attracting interest from Portsmouth and Southampton. (People)

OTHER GOSSIP
A clause in the contracts of Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez allows West Ham to terminate their deals in January. The Hammers will. (People)

West Ham will be sold to Eggert Magnusson for £98m this week. (NOTW)

Wolves owner Jack Hayward is prepared to drop his asking price for the club from £40m to £20m. (NOTW)

The going rate at Leicester City is £25m and former Pompey chief Milan Mandaric is getting ever closer to securing the club. (Sunday Telegraph)

Montreal Canadiens NHL owner George Gillet is lining up a £250m takeover package for Liverpool. (Independent on Sunday)

Or will it cost the American billionaire £450m? (Mail on Sunday)

David Beckham says he is enduring the worst period of his career but has no intention to leave Real Madrid. (NOTW)

Tp prove the point Becks has rejected overtures from Italian side Inter Milan. (People)

Cristiano Ronaldo is adamant Manchester United can do the double of Champions League and Premiership this season. (NOTW)

Newcastle's Kieron Dyer says he is "embarrassed" to have been injured and unable to play so frequently when he is being paid so much money. (People)

Former Celtic forward John Hartson has rubbished criticism of Rangers striker Kris Boyd and predicts a bright future for him at Ibrox. (Sunday Herald)

Southampton defender Claus Lundekvam will quit the game when his contract expires in 18 months. (People)

West Ham striker Dean Ashton says setting a date for his return from a broken ankle would be tempting fate. (Mirror)

Former Luton player Iain Dowie is being lined up as the club's new manager after Mike Newell's recent disputes with chairman Bill Tomlins. (Various)

The FA could investigate reports of irregular betting activity ahead of Iain Dowie's Charlton sacking. (People)

Watford's Chris Powell could be in line for a third spell at Charlton to work alongside new coach Les Reed. (People)

England assistant coach Terry Venables says reports he has fallen out with head coach Steve McClaren are "utter rubbish". (NOTW)


AND FINALLY...
Derby boss Billy Davies threatened his club's worst trainer with compulsory attendance at The East Midlands Gay Wedding Show - the venue was Pride Park - if the the Rams lost at Coventry last weekend. (People)

Watford boss Aidy Boothroyd says he wants inconsistent referees "put in the stocks" and pelted with tomatoes. (People)

[weeniebeenie]

Derby boss Billy Davies threatened his club's worst trainer with compulsory attendance at The East Midlands Gay Wedding Show - the venue was Pride Park - if the the Rams lost at Coventry last weekend. (People)

And some people think homophobia is rife in football!

[Wish_Master2100]

It will be the best stadium in the world for many years.

by the way, want to come Nottm Forest Away next week if i can grab a spare membership?

It honestly will be. It is breath taking.

If anyone has any (serious) questions about it, please don't hesitate.

Can't go Forest, it's her birthday.

[Renegades of funk 8]

Celebration of the season - Coradi's Knighting.

more like gayest celebration, almost as gay as coleman playing 2 defenders in midfield when we have 4 attacking players on the bench

[Captain Stu]

Go away, smelly American/Canadians. No takeover, only investment. :mad:

I want to say God, but I'm going to say Stu.

*nods* :D

That was immense. You can do seven stepovers, you can do that fucking pointless cross move (which he's already done before) where he dinks the ball with one leg behind the other... but you can't score a fucking tap-in to an open goal from 4 yards?

answer to Liverpools poor away performances.

A. PLAY CROUCH

B. Stop wearing that flourescent puke coloured kit

C. PLAY CROUCH!

The kit can stay but yeah, Crouch needs to play. I thought yesterday he would've played Bellamy wide left or wide right and play Crouch and Kuyt up front because they've played so well together. As much as I like the guy, Gonzalez was absolutely pathetic yesterday - every single sodding cross he attempted hit the first man. Fucking useless cunting shitwankers.