The Footie (UK) Thread: 2006/07

[Bud]

Mourinho won't drop Lampard, let alone sell him.

[Bexster]

He may not sell him, but he'll play less and less, and it'll piss him off.

[Bud]

I don't think so. With the sale of Duff he's obviously trying to go more central, espeically with Lampard, Essien and Ballack. In the big games, these three will play.

Shame watching them is nearly as boring as watching Bolton.

[Captain Stu]

What does the future hold for two of his other golden bumboys then - Cole and Robben? Frankly, I don't see Robben staying over here too much longer - he's too big a ponce.

[Bud]

Cole and Robben are less important to Mourinho than Lampard, that's for sure. They'll get time from the bench, and against lesser teams.

[Captain Stu]

That's a damn shame, as much as I try to hate Cole (which is still possible because of his over-insistence on little poncy flicks) he's such a potent attacking threat, way more creative than Fatpard.

Robben can fuck off, he's a one-trick, showboating, diving cunt.

[Wish_Master2100]

Ookie

Saturday, 28 October 2006
Arsenal v Everton [ARSENAL WIN]
Bolton v Man Utd [MAN UNITED WIN]
Fulham v Wigan [DRAW]
Liverpool v Aston Villa [DRAW]
Newcastle v Charlton [NEWCASTLE WIN]
Portsmouth v Reading [PORTSMOUTH WIN]
Sheff Utd v Chelsea [CHELSEA WIN]
Watford v Tottenham [DRAW]

Sunday, 29 October 2006
West Ham v Blackburn [DRAW]

Monday, 30 October 2006
Man City v Middlesbrough [MAN CITY]

Wish_Master

Saturday, 28 October 2006
Arsenal v Everton [ARSENAL WIN]
Bolton v Man Utd [MAN UNITED WIN]
Fulham v Wigan [DRAW]
Liverpool v Aston Villa [LIVERPOOL WIN]
Newcastle v Charlton [NEWCASTLE WIN]
Portsmouth v Reading [PORTSMOUTH WIN]
Sheff Utd v Chelsea [CHELSEA WIN]
Watford v Tottenham [SPURS WIN]

Sunday, 29 October 2006
West Ham v Blackburn [BLACKBURN WIN]

Monday, 30 October 2006
Man City v Middlesbrough [BORO WIN]

[Bud]

Maybe he'll start playing Cole off a striker?

[Captain Stu]

Maybe he'll start playing Cole off a striker?

If they play one up, yeah, I think he's done that before at times when he had Robben, Cole and Duff to accomodate... but I can't see him doing that. Drogba's really found form in a 4-4-2 and he's not gonna drop him in favour of mis-firing Shevchenko so I reckon Cole might find himself alternating with someone.

[rob3000]

Rafa won't go. He's been in this position before, at some point in the past 2 seasons fickle fans have claimed he doesn't know what he's doing, and he's ending up winning a trophy at the end of the season. It'll pass.

[sunnydalehighdropout]

Maybe he'll start playing Cole off a striker?
If he played Cole hanging off Shevchenko, the amount of goals that the 2 of them would score and assist would outnumber all 3 relegated teams put together. It would be devestating.

It's exactly what Shevchenko has had at AC Milan with Bierhoff (99-00), Inzaghi (00-04), Tomasson (03-04) and Crespo (04-05). All of them were quicker than Shevchenko and could lay him off some good quality balls, and manage to use their pace to catch up to the level of the ball for if he didn't find himself in a scoring position.

And Kevin's description of Mourinho's new tactic is sopt on and shows why he is so highly rated, despite all the baffling tantrums. There is no team that he cannot find a formation and the players to counter.

[friartuck]

If he played Cole hanging off Shevchenko, the amount of goals that the 2 of them would score and assist would outnumber all 3 relegated teams put together. It would be devestating.

It's exactly what Shevchenko has had at AC Milan with Bierhoff (99-00), Inzaghi (00-04), Tomasson (03-04) and Crespo (04-05). All of them were quicker than Shevchenko and could lay him off some good quality balls, and manage to use their pace to catch up to the level of the ball for if he didn't find himself in a scoring position.


This could work but those players you cited are different to Cole. They're all big lads, good finishers and great headers of the ball. If anything Shevchenko played off them. Those guys were target men - a sort of Peter Crouch except good.

That's what he hopes to achieve with Droggers and Shevvers up front. Except Drogba is way too selfish a player to work in that kind of system.

I know that Shevchenko is a terrific talent and proven at the highest level but for me there's only one logical explanation as to why Mourinho changed his unbelievably effective strike partnership of Crespo and Drogba: Abramovich wanted to buy the best Slavic player around. Buying old fogies for sinful amounts of money didn't work for Fiorentino Perez and I don't think it will work for Abramovich.

[sunnydalehighdropout]

This could work but those players you cited are different to Cole. They're all big lads, good finishers and great headers of the ball. If anything Shevchenko played off them. Those guys were target men - a sort of Peter Crouch except good.

That's what he hopes to achieve with Droggers and Shevvers up front. Except Drogba is way too selfish a player to work in that kind of system.

I know that Shevchenko is a terrific talent and proven at the highest level but for me there's only one logical explanation as to why Mourinho changed his unbelievably effective strike partnership of Crespo and Drogba: Abramovich wanted to buy the best Slavic player around. Buying old fogies for sinful amounts of money didn't work for Fiorentino Perez and I don't think it will work for Abramovich.
Yeah, it's all about politics and palling up to your mates. There was no need to change something that wasn't broken. Chelsea's league performances were the most clinical and effective football to be played in the Premier League. They just needed to alter their system (with the same players) to best suit European competition.

Back in 2003 when Abramovich took over, Ken Bates was thrilled at the prospect of investing his money in multiple academies and fielding "an entirely homegrown squad of winners by 2010". Like fuck that will happen now.

[Bud]

Those guys were target men - a sort of Peter Crouch except good.

Haha

[EvilElvis]

The latest crisis at Hearts (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/heart_of_midlothian/6091336.stm)

[Novacane]

I would say bad things about Romanov, but his internet policing goons would likely hunt me down and kill me within the hour. :(

[EvilElvis]

I would say bad things about Romanov, but his internet policing goons would likely hunt me down and kill me within the hour. :(


Nah! It'd be sooner than that!



I actually know somone who works for him! he's currently on holiday!

[EvilElvis]

The Hearts fans have made a statement stating that if any of the player who made the statement questioning the running of the club - Craig Gordon, Steven Pressley and Paul Hartley - are dropped from today's game, they will leave the ground

[EvilElvis]

Real Madrid midfielder David Beckham has been offered the chance to end his career in America by joining Los Angeles Galaxy next summer. (Daily Mail)

Spurs have offered £100,000 for Norwegian striker Dag Alexander Olsen, 17, who plays for Gjovik-Lyn. (Daily Mail)

MK Dons have signed Northampton keeper Lee Harper on a three-month loan deal. (The Sun)

On-loan Stoke City midfielder Lee Hendrie could make his move from Aston Villa permanent. (The Sun)


OTHER GOSSIP
Alan Pardew says he will not walk out on West Ham, even if the Hammers lose their game against Blackburn on Sunday. (Various)

Argentine striker Carlos Tevez reckons the club's woeful run has made him feel "a bit uneasy". (The Sun)

Millwall chairman Peter de Savary quit the club on Friday after 11 months in charge. (The Sun)

Chelsea keeper Petr Cech says he cannot remember anything about his horrific clash with Reading's Stephen Hunt. (Various)

Man City boss Stuart Pearce says a transfer window should be introduced for managers to give them greater job security. (Various)

Man Utd boss Sir Alex Ferguson has voiced his anger at the number of managers being sacked this season. (Daily Mirror)

Arsene Wenger says Everton striker Andy Johnson goes to ground too easily and 20% of his penalties are not genuine. (Daily Express)

England coach Steve McClaren has the support of many of his senior players over the decision to axe David Beckham. (Daily Express)

Portsmouth defender Sol Campbell says McClaren did not have the bottle to tell him his international career was over face-to-face. (The Sun)

Derby striker Steve Howard says he will happily play at centre-half to help out the Championship side. (Daily Star)

Peter Beagrie is set to hang up his boots after being released by Grimsby. (Various)

AND FINALLY...
Middlesbrough midfielder-cum-striker Jason Euell has revealed he is deaf in one ear.

[boxshapedheart]

Saturday, 28 October 2006
Arsenal v Everton [ARSENAL]
Bolton v Man Utd [MAN UTD]
Fulham v Wigan [WIGAN]
Liverpool v Aston Villa [VILLA]
Newcastle v Charlton [NEWCASTLE]
Portsmouth v Reading [READING]
Sheff Utd v Chelsea [CHELSEA]
Watford v Tottenham [TOTTENHAM]

Sunday, 29 October 2006
West Ham v Blackburn [DRAW]

Monday, 30 October 2006
Man City v Middlesbrough [DRAW]

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

Can anyone help me with PPLive? It doesn't seem to find any of the channels listed here (http://www.freefootball.org/upcoming.php).

[Captain Stu]

Sorry D-Man, never used that thing.

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

What happened to Shevchenko today? I had a bet on him.

[Novacane]

Fifa 2007 doesn't have any scottish teams.............bring on pro-evo. :mad:

[Frankenweenie]

Bristol City win 1-0. Have it Doncaster!

[F'jo]

Bristol City win 1-0. Have it Doncaster!

Awesome! My dad and sister were at the game, they'll soon tell me all the info when they get back

[Frankenweenie]

Awesome! My dad and sister were at the game, they'll soon tell me all the info when they get back

I want automatic promotion. I hate the playoffs.

[friartuck]

What a performance from Man U today.

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

Good to see Rooney shut a few people up.

[Renegades of funk 8]

fucking motd, didn't show any of the pens we should of had, just made it look like it was all wigan :mad:

[EvilElvis]

The Celtic fan is either brave or very stupid (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/EvilElvis/suicidedr6.jpg)

[Renegades of funk 8]

The Celtic fan is either brave or very stupid (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/EvilElvis/suicidedr6.jpg)


i'll go with stupid

[Bexster]

i'll go with stupid
I'd go with stupid too.

[Bexster]

Today's rumours

TRANSFER RUMOURS
Former Newcastle winger Laurent Robert wants to move back to St James' Park from Levante. (The People)

Arsenal are on the trail of Servette striker Julian Esteban. (News of the World)

Real Madrid would be ready to part with David Beckham and then make a move for Liverpool midfielder Steven Gerrard in the summer. (The People)

Tottenham boss Martin Jol has said that he would consider making a bid for Real's former England captain Beckham. (Mail on Sunday)

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has been given the green light by owner Malcolm Glazer to land Owen Hargreaves from Bayern Munich and whoever else he needs in January, with £20m available for transfers. (News of the World)

Reading midfielder John Oster is being lined up for a loan move to Wolves. (The People)

Everton, Sheffield United and Charlton are monitoring £2m-rated Belgian international keeper Stijn Stijnen. (News of the World)

Charlton are set to complete a free transfer swoop for Strasbourg's South Africa star Abel M'Phela in January. (The People)

West Brom want to sign Preston striker Danny Dichio. (The People)

Portsmouth are winning the race to sign Crewe striker Luke Varney, who has also been tracked by Newcastle. (News of the World)

Portsmouth have offered former Bolton and Inter Milan midfielder Khalilou Fadiga from Senegal the chance to revive his career at Portsmouth. (The People)

Fulham have made United States defender Oguchi Onyewu, who is at Standard Liege, their top target in the January transfer window. (News of the World)

Aston Villa are lining up a £5m swoop for Tottenham striker Robbie Keane. (Various)

Watford, Leeds and Charlton are targeting Everton keeper Richard Wright, who can leave on a free transfer next summer. (News of the World)

Newcastle are lining up a double transfer swoop for Preston striker David Nugent and Bolton forward Kevin Davies. (News of the World)

Ipswich's Billy Clarke has told Everton, who have been linked to the striker, that he is staying at Portman Road. (News of the World)




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OTHER GOSSIP
Middlesbrough winger Stewart Downing believes he has been made a scapegoat for England's recent poor results in the Euro 2008 qualifying campaign. (Various)

Manager Stuart Pearce's future at Manchester City will be decided by the club's next four games. (Mail on Sunday)

Liverpool are a takeover target for an American billionaire, who once owned the Harlem Globetrotters basketball team - George Gillett jnr. (Mail on Sunday)

American striker Brian McBride is close to earning a new contract at Fulham. (News of the World)

Former Portsmouth chairman Milan Mandaric will make a £25m bid to take over Leicester this week. (News of the World)

Bryan Robson and Gary Megson are going head to head for the vacant managerial post at Sheffield Wednesday. (The People)


Newcastle keeper Shay Given will start training this week and is set to be available to face Manchester City on 11 November after being sidelined since 11 September with a perforated bowel. (Various)

Aston Villa defender Olof Mellberg has pledged his future to the club. (News of the World)

Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill says he blew his chances of becoming England manager because he failed his interview. (News of the World)



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AND FINALLY...
Ivelin Popov has been ordered to get married by boss Ljupko Petrovic at Bulgarian side Litex Lovech in a bid to calm down the 19-year-old striker. (The People)

[friartuck]

England wish they had Martin O'Neill as their manager.

[Bud]

England wish they had Martin O'Neill as their manager.

How fucking true.

[rob3000]

England wish they had Martin O'Neill as their manager.
Without a doubt, he's a great manager.

[Captain Stu]

Up yer bum, Villa!! :D

[EvilElvis]

Up yer bum, Villa!! :D


O'Neil's first loss at Anfield as a manager.


And we're still above you in the league. :D

[Captain Stu]

O'Neil's first loss at Anfield as a manager.

And we're still above you in the league. :D

... by one smegging point, give it a week or two lad. :p

(Sorry about the texts, I was a tad excited)

Everton were fucking lucky, jammy cunts.

[EvilElvis]

... by one smegging point, give it a week or two lad. :p

(Sorry about the texts, I was a tad excited)

I know!


I was thinking I had said "Don't give me updates. I want a surprise..."

Then I get:

"Kyut in there lad!"
"Crouchtastic!"
"Now it's a pisstake"

"Your mobs scored"

[Renegades of funk 8]

Everton were fucking lucky, jammy cunts.

didn't they only have 1 shot

[EvilElvis]

Bloody hell! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/6096954.stm)

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

Luton defender Sol Davis had a stroke. Gutted @ Sol Davis.

[DanHarding]

Luton defender Sol Davis had a stroke. Gutted @ Sol Davis.
Crikey, He seemed in good health.

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

You're a witless man, DanHarding.

[Bud]

with poor grammar

[EvilElvis]

Luton defender Sol Davis had a stroke. Gutted @ Sol Davis.

Bloody hell! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/6096954.stm)


Check the linkage Mr David.

[EvilElvis]

Kris should be happy (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee_utd/6096438.stm)

[Bud]

Hahaha, Levein

[EvilElvis]

Hahaha, Levein


Brewster won 2 games in 28 - Levein won't be that bad.

[Captain Stu]

I know!


I was thinking I had said "Don't give me updates. I want a surprise..."

Then I get:

"Kyut in there lad!"
"Crouchtastic!"
"Now it's a pisstake"

"Your mobs scored"

:o

[friartuck]

Haha Stu you big kid.

[Captain Stu]

I defend myself by saying the following... I only actually sent "KUYTY BABY" and "haw haw". :)

[EvilElvis]

I defend myself by saying the following... I only actually sent "KUYTY BABY" and "haw haw". :)


The Haw haw could have meant that we had put Chris Sutton on...


And had you sent me those messages I owuld have pissed myslef - Espically the "Your mob's scored" comment!

[Bexster]

The Haw haw could have meant that we had put Chris Sutton on...


And had you sent me those messages I owuld have pissed myslef - Espically the "Your mob's scored" comment!
I didn't believe that was all he'd sent until you confirmed it. I thought Stu was just trying to make himself sound less cruel...

[Captain Stu]

I'm not cruel. :) I was just very happy for my team, especially Kuyt baby. :)

[Bexster]

I'm not cruel. :) I was just very happy for my team, especially Kuyt baby. :)
Bout time they did something good :)

[Captain Stu]

Bout time they did something good :)

Precisely the reason for my glee. I was worried about Villa, the perpetual draw-merchants (especially at Anfield - I've been to 3/4 Villa games at Anfield and they've all been 1-1 or 0-0) would take a point away and that's just not on.

[EvilElvis]

Precisely the reason for my glee. I was worried about Villa, the perpetual draw-merchants (especially at Anfield - I've been to 3/4 Villa games at Anfield and they've all been 1-1 or 0-0) would take a point away and that's just not on.

As I already pointed out, that was O'Neil's first loss at Anfield as a manager.


Reina made an excellent save from a Sutton header in 2nd half, then Sutton went and saved Reina a job be inadvertantly clearing a shot wide of the Liverpool goal :mad:

[EvilElvis]

Israeli side Maccabi Netanya insist they are serious about signing Real Madrid midfielder David Beckham after making a £5m bid for the ex-England captain. (The Sun)

New Leeds boss Dennis Wise wants to sign Reading defender Sam Sodje on loan. (Daily Mirror)

Birmingham boss Steve Bruce has conceded that the club will have to sell £6m-rated defender Matthew Upson if they cannot get him to sign a new deal. (Daily Mirror)


OTHER GOSSIP
Manager Jose Mourinho has warned his Chelsea stars to beware of any diving by Barcelona players in Tuesday's Champions League clash. (The Sun)

Former Portsmouth chairman Milan Mandaric has pledged to revitalise Leicester if he succeeds with a £25m bid to buy the club this week. (Daily Mirror)

Louis Saha believes that fellow Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney is the man who can send the Premiership title to Old Trafford this season. (The Sun)

Former West Brom boss Bryan Robson will fly back to England from a media trip in the Far East to have talks with Sheffield Wednesday about becoming their new manager. (Daily Mirror)


AND FINALLY...
Hearts fans have allegedly reported a linesman to the Scottish Football Association and have accused him of challenging them to a fight during a Scottish Premier League match. (Daily Record)

[Bexster]

Former Portsmouth chairman Milan Mandaric has pledged to revitalise Leicester if he succeeds with a £25m bid to buy the club this week. (Daily Mirror)
They need something to happen. I've been so disappointed with them these past couple of seasons, and it's turning my Dad into a depressed football supporter. Mayve he'd do them some good.

[Bexster]

Yahoo
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22 Fashion Zombies Kat R 28 283
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[Captain Stu]

Just saw one of the most fucking retarded decisions ever.

City vs Boro match, Dickov was chasing the ball into the corner and Huth was basically trying to penetrate him. Had his arms over Dickov, round his neck and the second that Dickov moves his arms backwards to shift Huth away - whistle goes, foul BY Dickov and a booking.

Utter tripe, it was literally a foot in front of the linesman and he gave in favour of Huth - the talentless cunt.

[EvilElvis]

Just saw one of the most fucking retarded decisions ever.

City vs Boro match, Dickov was chasing the ball into the corner and Huth was basically trying to penetrate him. Had his arms over Dickov, round his neck and the second that Dickov moves his arms backwards to shift Huth away - whistle goes, foul BY Dickov and a booking.

Utter tripe, it was literally a foot in front of the linesman and he gave in favour of Huth - the talentless cunt.


Just think of the Chelski connection...

[Renegades of funk 8]

but dickov is a little shit so who cares :D

[Captain Stu]

but dickov is a little shit so who cares :D

Well yeah, I fucking hate the little runt.

[Captain Stu]

Manchester United full-back Gabriel Heinze is a loan target for former club Paris St Germain. (The Sun)

Juventus and Italy keeper Gianluigi Buffon says he could leave the club next year, with Arsenal keeping close tabs on the situation. (Daily Star)

Former Newcastle winger Laurent Robert, now with Spanish side Levante, wants a return to St James' Park. (Daily Star)

OTHER GOSSIP
Former England boss Sven-Goran Eriksson is interested in taking over at Newcastle - and the Magpies are interested in talking to him. (The Sun)

Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill says the fact he is on only a one-year rolling contract makes no difference to his commitment to the club. (The Sun)

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has stoked up the flames ahead of his side's Champions League meeting with Barcelona, claiming former Blues striker Eidur Gudjohnsen has learned how to dive since moving to the Nou Camp. (Various)

West Ham boss Alan Pardew is still under pressure despite winning at the weekend, with the reported Kia Joorabchian-led takeover bid for the club keen to find a new manager. (The Sun)

The Joorabchian takeover should be completed by the end of the week. (The Guardian)

West Ham's 40-year-old striker Teddy Sheringham almost left Upton Park in the summer after an approach from Aston Villa. (Various)

Sheffield Wednesday are choosing their new manager from a shortlist of three: Bryan Robson, Gary Megson and Brian Laws. (Daily Express)

AND FINALLY...
A study by the University of Bath has discovered, after investigating more than 2,500 Premiership matches, that referees are statistically more likely to show red and yellow cards to the away team. (The Times)

Sir Trevor Brooking will continue to oversee FA Cup draws despite the mix-up in Saturday's first-round draw when King's Lynn's name was called out twice. (Daily Express)

Chelsea's players will spend a maximum of £5 on Christmas presents for each other. (The Sun)

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Former England boss Sven-Goran Eriksson is interested in taking over at Newcastle - and the Magpies are interested in talking to him. (The Sun)

I'd actually be happy with that. While he's no genius his ability to form a solid if unspectacular team is exactly what we need.

Stability is our most important aim right now.

[Renegades of funk 8]

A study by the University of Bath has discovered, after investigating more than 2,500 Premiership matches, that referees are statistically more likely to show red and yellow cards to the away team. (The Times)


shouldn't that read....

A study by the University of Bath has discovered, after investigating more than 2,500 Premiership matches, that referees are cunts(The Times)

[Captain Stu]

Hahaha. :D

[Bexster]

shouldn't that read....

A study by the University of Bath has discovered, after investigating more than 2,500 Premiership matches, that referees are cunts(The Times)
Yes. Yes it should.

[JackTom 2.0]

I'm at the University of Bath!


It was my study

[boxshapedheart]

I'm at the University of Bath!


It was my study
Then you should have went with "cunts". Tut.

[Captain Stu]

I'm at the University of Bath!


It was my study

Stop lying, liar!

[boxshapedheart]

Mourhinho saying Gudjohnson learnt to dive at Barca... Hah!

[Captain Stu]

Mourhinho saying Gudjohnson learnt to dive at Barca... Hah!

Well yeah, I can't imagine he learnt it off Dogba and Robben in the same way that they educated SWP and Cole.

Imagine, being around all those dirty smelly Portugese cunts and not learning a single dodgy manouvere.

[boxshapedheart]

Well yeah, I can't imagine he learnt it off Dogba and Robben in the same way that they educated SWP and Cole.

Imagine, being around all those dirty smelly Portugese cunts and not learning a single dodgy manouvere.
And Duff.

yeah I know. They have a unique "skill" for diving manoeuvres.

Btw, you beat me on preds this week. So you'll be top when Wishmaster puts the league up. *sob* :mad:

Unless someone else managed to overtake.

[Captain Stu]

you beat me

YAY!!!

[boxshapedheart]

Tis only temporary! :mad:

[Captain Stu]

Tis only temporary! :mad:

So's YOUR FACE!! :mad:

Well, not really... obviously.

[boxshapedheart]

So's YOUR FACE!! :mad:

Well, not really... obviously.
Well maybe it is.... and maybe I'm really Jose Mourinho* :eek:

*Lies, bis fat dirty LIES!

[Captain Stu]

:eek: :(

[boxshapedheart]

:eek: :(
:D

You're on ITV2 tonight huh? won't be able to do multi match view then.

[Captain Stu]

:D

You're on ITV2 tonight huh? won't be able to do multi match view then.

Innit, fucking gaylords ruining my fun in watching 8 matches at the same time. :mad:

[boxshapedheart]

Ah feck. :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6094132.stm

[Hexster]

Ah feck. :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6094132.stm
Not a loss. Especially not Neville in the back :D

[Captain Stu]

Innit, Neville being injured is a plus for United.

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

If Kalou scores first and Chelsea win 2-1, I'm rich.

[Captain Stu]

I THINK BENITEZ HAS KEPT THE SAME SIDE FROM SATURDAY!!!

*faints*

[Novacane]

Mon the barca! :)

[Wish_Master2100]

http://www.prodirectsoccer.com/prodinfo.asp?PID=PDS-002-001-644&DEPT=2&BRAND=1

Pukka.

[Bud]

Drogba is such a cock.

[Bud]

Cole?! 2 cards and NOT sent off!

[Captain Stu]

MON THE BARCA!!! :D

(Liverpool are playing pretty fucking well, atm)

Cole?! 2 cards and NOT sent off!

You what?! Which Cole?

*

Also, check out this mad piece of skill from Van Persie... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX8TrTcIJl4)

[Bud]

Well, Spanish TV showed the wrong man so everyone thought Cole was getting his 2nd. It was only his first :(

God I hate Chelsea.

[rob3000]

Also, check out this mad piece of skill from Van Persie... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX8TrTcIJl4)
Wow, had to watch that a few times and I still don't get. Good player.

[Captain Stu]

Stupid Chelsea... Gudjohnson NEEDS to score.

How long's Eto'o out for... my Dad says they supsect until the summer!? :eek:

[Bud]

They look BLUNT without Eto'o. If he's not ready till summer then they won't win the CL.

Van Persie is amazingly talented but a greedy bastard.

[Bud]

Fucking Lampard. 1-1

[Bud]

EIDUR!!!!!!

2-1!

Drogba moaning like a BITCH.

[Bud]

Eissen gets stamped on. on his COCK. lolz.

[Wish_Master2100]

Why do you keep posting everything that happens?

[Bud]

I'm bored mainly

[sunnydalehighdropout]

They look BLUNT without Eto'o. If he's not ready till summer then they won't win the CL.
Oh, i've missed something there. What happened?

[Bud]

Oh, i've missed something there. What happened?

He's been injured for awhile now, I think.

[sunnydalehighdropout]

He's been injured for awhile now, I think.
Oh right, what is it and what's the prognosis?

[Bud]

Oh right, what is it and what's the prognosis?

Knee and months, I believe.

[rob3000]

It was 5 months originally, so 4 months remaining?

[Captain Stu]

Eissen gets stamped on. on his COCK. lolz.

... and then Carvalho karate-kicks Deco right in the willy.

FUCKING DROGBA, stupid cunt... good take for the goal in all fairness but shocking marking to allow Terry that much space.

Were Chelsea out-played, Ed?

*

Anyway, we've made our next 2 European games pointless now as I believe we've guarenteed qualification seeing as Galatasary beat PSV. Nice one! :D We played well, not superb... but Gerrard was fucking excellent, really active, smiling all game and seemed to be enjoying himself.

Garcia, the cunt... scores two goals and did FUCK ALL else.

[Captain Stu]

Also, fuck that cunt who butted Johny-Arneybaby and then had the fucking nerve to hold his own head and plead innocence.

5-match ban please.

[Bud]

Were Chelsea out-played, Ed?

Unfortunately, no. It was pretty even. Both sides had good periods.

[Captain Stu]

Damn.

[Bud]

Barca won't win it without Eto'o, that's for damn sure.

[Captain Stu]

I hear another 6 months for Eto'o...

[Bud]

For me, it throws the whole competition open. As much as I'd love it, I can't see us getting to the final again. Maybe Chelsea will do it this year.

[rob3000]

For me, it throws the whole competition open. As much as I'd love it, I can't see us getting to the final again. Maybe Chelsea will do it this year.
Maybe Liverpool will do it.:D

[Captain Stu]

Yeah, without Eto'o leading the line - Barca won't win it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Real Madrid in the final, they're like a team re-born under Capello.

[Bud]

Maybe Liverpool will do it.:D

Anything can happen :D Maybe it'll be Rafa's saving grace once again.

[Renegades of funk 8]

has the prediction table been posted yet? i think i had an ok week

[Hexster]

Garcia, the cunt... scores two goals and did FUCK ALL else.
Does it matter if he did fuck all else if he scored 2 goals?

Pissing Chelski. I'm getting fed up of them being so jammy. So I'm behind Liverpool to win the CL if Arsenal don't. (From Britain. I'd want Barca to win again otherwise)

[Captain Stu]

Does it matter if he did fuck all else if he scored 2 goals?

Pissing Chelski. I'm getting fed up of them being so jammy. So I'm behind Liverpool to win the CL if Arsenal don't. (From Britain. I'd want Barca to win again otherwise)

Because we won, no, but his problem is that if he doesn't score - which is a lot of the time - he contributes absolutely zip.

[Bexster]

Because we won, no, but his problem is that if he doesn't score - which is a lot of the time - he contributes absolutely zip.
Who would you play there instead?

[Captain Stu]

Who would you play there instead?

Gonzalez, but he was injured last night methinks - his immense pace makes him tremendously effective but it also highlights why we need a good secondary left-back so we could push Riise onto the wing and stick Player X at the back... Warnock isn't good enough and Aurelio is a sodding winger who kids himself when he plays at left-back.

Hell, maybe even Aurelio could have played on the wing, he has a solid cross on him.

Or, if he's fit, even play Bellamy out there in an Henry sort of role - but, if you do that, Gerrard needs to play as an out-and-out winger. We can only afford to have one winger cutting inside (ie, Gerrard right ring free role) meaning we need a solid left winger to hug the line.

Bollocks to Zenden, cracking pass for Gerrard's goal but he's too slow 99% of the time. Right now, if fit, I'd even use Kewell :eek: until Speedy is fit.

[Bexster]

Gonzalez, but he was injured last night methinks - his immense pace makes him tremendously effective but it also highlights why we need a good secondary left-back so we could push Riise onto the wing and stick Player X at the back... Warnock isn't good enough and Aurelio is a sodding winger who kids himself when he plays at left-back.

Hell, maybe even Aurelio could have played on the wing, he has a solid cross on him.

Or, if he's fit, even play Bellamy out there in an Henry sort of role - but, if you do that, Gerrard needs to play as an out-and-out winger. We can only afford to have one winger cutting inside (ie, Gerrard right ring free role) meaning we need a solid left winger to hug the line.

Bollocks to Zenden, cracking pass for Gerrard's goal but he's too slow 99% of the time. Right now, if fit, I'd even use Kewell :eek: until Speedy is fit.
And there I think you've just highlighted Rafa's problem. He must sit in his office going 'Well, I could play him, but then I'd have to do this, this and this, and I can't, except if I do this, but then I'd have to change my whole back line...'

[Captain Stu]

And there I think you've just highlighted Rafa's problem. He must sit in his office going 'Well, I could play him, but then I'd have to do this, this and this, and I can't, except if I do this, but then I'd have to change my whole back line...'

NO! ZE BACK LINE IS OUR ONE CONSISTENCY!!

There was an interesting piece in the Mirror yesterday, I might scan it if I remember when i get home, showing who has played in what position and how many times over Rafa's last 99 teams and the defense stats were awesome. Something like Finnan (86), Hyypia (85) and Carragher (86). :)

Sissoko showed yet again last night why he's his own worst enemy, too many classless tackles like a young Viera. Now, ok, he's only 21 - but when he's becoming a key player in our team, he has GOT to learn to control his temper and learn when to use a classy Alonso-type tackle... just poke the ball away from someone without clattering them.

My Dad also picked up on a good point, when he fouls someone - he just walks away, especially when the refs talking to him. He hardly ever (if ever at all) apologies, even just with a friendly wave, that he's done wrong and I think it's getting him a reputation as a prick and people will eventually start playing to that.

Benitez's problem is that he still doesn't know his best midfield, which is a shame. Although, in all fairness, Gerrard had a stonker last night but his passing was a bit lapse at times.

[Captain Stu]

Also, dunno if you cats saw, one of our directors quit yesterday after he admitted he was the one who made the slurs against Benitez in the Mirror on friday.

Good riddance, he's been a good servant to the club for 21+ years... but you can't slag the manager off and question everything he's ever done over the past 2 years. Plank.

[rob3000]

NO! ZE BACK LINE IS OUR ONE CONSISTENCY!!

There was an interesting piece in the Mirror yesterday, I might scan it if I remember when i get home, showing who has played in what position and how many times over Rafa's last 99 teams and the defense stats were awesome. Something like Finnan (86), Hyypia (85) and Carragher (86). :)

Sissoko showed yet again last night why he's his own worst enemy, too many classless tackles like a young Viera. Now, ok, he's only 21 - but when he's becoming a key player in our team, he has GOT to learn to control his temper and learn when to use a classy Alonso-type tackle... just poke the ball away from someone without clattering them.

My Dad also picked up on a good point, when he fouls someone - he just walks away, especially when the refs talking to him. He hardly ever (if ever at all) apologies, even just with a friendly wave, that he's done wrong and I think it's getting him a reputation as a prick and people will eventually start playing to that.

Benitez's problem is that he still doesn't know his best midfield, which is a shame. Although, in all fairness, Gerrard had a stonker last night but his passing was a bit lapse at times.
I won't hear a bad word said about Sissoko, he's great at what he does. Especially at so young, I find it rather incredible. The FA cup final against West Ham, Gerrard gets all the applause for that but Sissoko had an astonishing game, I'm happy for him to play every game. Not saying sorry is just his character, I have no problem with it.

[rob3000]

Also, dunno if you cats saw, one of our directors quit yesterday after he admitted he was the one who made the slurs against Benitez in the Mirror on friday.

Good riddance, he's been a good servant to the club for 21+ years... but you can't slag the manager off and question everything he's ever done over the past 2 years. Plank.
Yeah, definitely. Keep it behind closed doors, don't get to the fucking press.

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

Drogba was fucking sickening last night.

[Captain Stu]

Drogba was fucking sickening last night.

Why?

[Foo Fighters, United Kingdom]

Going to ground every time the wind blew.

[Captain Stu]

Well now, there's a change... but I bet Mourwhineo didn't see it although he has moaned about Barca players tumbling.

[Bexster]

Yeah, definitely. Keep it behind closed doors, don't get to the fucking press.
Absolutely. He was wrong to do that.

Well now, there's a change... but I bet Mourwhineo didn't see it although he has moaned about Barca players tumbling.
Of course not. He gets his eyes checked at the same place as Mr. Wenger, doesn't he. (except Mourwhinio's worse)

[Captain Stu]

And fuck Fat Frank with his talk about the ref, you can't talk you useless fat fuck.

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

And fuck Fat Frank with his talk about the ref, you can't talk you useless fat fuck.

Typically jammy goal as well.

[Captain Stu]

Typically jammy goal as well.

Totally.

[Bexster]

Totally.
When was the last time Fat Frank scored a normal goal?

[Captain Stu]

When was the last time Fat Frank scored a normal goal?

BEEP! DOES NOT COMPUTE! DOES NOT COMPUTE!

*head explodes*

[Bexster]

BEEP! DOES NOT COMPUTE! DOES NOT COMPUTE!

*head explodes*
:(

Shit. Broke it again...

[boxshapedheart]

He is the queen of deflected jammy goals and farkin blatantly fluked that goal yesterday. He was trying to get a cross back in and it was so off it went in the goal.

Bloody git seriously claiming it aswell. Pfft. That reminds me of Zamora - he did some blatant fluke goal and claimed he meant it - then WHAM went on their run of losses. That'll learn him.

[Wish_Master2100]

has the prediction table been posted yet? i think i had an ok week

You did have an Okay week.

I'll be posting the prediction results every 2 weeks, just to make it more interesting.

Okay?

[JackTom 2.0]

Awesome goal by Lampard :)

[Captain Stu]

Are Arsenal on the TV tonight?

[Captain Stu]

HOW THE FUCK DID FABREGAS MISS THAT?! YOU MUPPET!! :mad:

[Captain Stu]

Arsenal's finishing is, at the moment, laughable. It's just about to blow for half time and they could and should be (seriously) 4-0 up.

[Captain Stu]

Well, Arsenal were dire in front of goal tonight, couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo from five paces away.

[O.B.gene]

...who u talking to? :p

[Renegades of funk 8]

You did have an Okay week.

I'll be posting the prediction results every 2 weeks, just to make it more interesting.

Okay?


oh yea cool, no probelm, just wondering

[Renegades of funk 8]

anyone played pe6 online yet, i have had a few games - it's quite good

though you might want to be careful, as this could happen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q4lgmPQ9wA :D

[EvilElvis]

Bayern Munich will allow Owen Hargreaves to join Manchester United in January - provided the German club sign Newcastle's Emre. (The Sun)

Spanish striker Fernando Torres wants Chelsea's Shaun Wright-Phillips to join him at Atletico Madrid. (The Sun)

Reading boss Steve Coppell will not allow defender Sam Sodje to go to Leeds on loan. (Daily Star)

Walsall have accepted a bid from Manchester United for their teenage striker Evandro Brandao. (Daily Mirror)

Portsmouth want to sign West Brom's Hungarian midfielder Zoltan Gera in January. (Daily Mirror)

Aston Villa are trailing QPR winger Lee Cook. (Daily Mirror)

New Dundee United boss Craig Levein is set to send Lee Wilkie out on loan to regain his form. (Daily Record)

Australian club Perth Glory have ruled out signing former Everton and Rangers striker Duncan Ferguson. (Daily Record)

Barcelona are poised to bid for West Ham striker Carlos Tevez in January. (Daily Mail)


OTHER GOSSIP
Bryan Robson will not be Sheffield Wednesday's new manager because his wage demands are too high. (Daily Star)

Chelsea will be fined £16,000 after they collected six booking against Barcelona. (The Sun)

Abel Xavier be in Middlesbrough's team to face Watford on Saturday after more than a year out following his drugs ban. (Daily Mirror)

Chelsea keeper Carlo Cudicini has fallen out with boss Jose Mourinho because he failed to start against Barcelona. (Daily Express)

Peter Taylor has told the FA he wants a break from managing the England Under-21 side so he can focus on his job at Crystal Palace. (Daily Express)

Middlesbrough will try to force through a rule change at a Premier League meeting next week so Gareth Southgate can continue as manager. (Guardian)


AND FINALLY...
One Barcelona fan was so upset with Didier Drogba's late equaliser for Chelsea at the Nou Camp that he lobbed a peach at the Ivory Coast striker. (Independent)

Aggie MacKenzie, from television programme 'How Clean Is Your House?', has some words of advice for Jose Mourinho after he slid across the Nou Camp turf in his suit to celebrate Drogba's goal. "Grass stains are really hard. You need a biological washing powder that contains enzymes that will break down the proteins in grass stains." (Times)

[EvilElvis]

Heard Murwhiniho and Fatpard making a few comments over last few days

"The amount of time teams go to the Nou Camp and have players sent off or lose a penalty is frightening"

Because Chelski never get the benefit of ref's decision's at Stamford Bridge obviously...


"We had 2 stonewall penalties denied"

See my previous comment about deicsion's going for Chelsea...

[Captain Stu]

One Barcelona fan was so upset with Didier Drogba's late equaliser for Chelsea at the Nou Camp that he lobbed a peach at the Ivory Coast striker. (Independent)

Fucking awesome!

[boxshapedheart]

Ah man last night sucked. Never make it easy for ourselves..... :rolleyes:
And finishing with 10 men cos Solskjaer had to limp off. :(

Ronaldo got in a right stroppy mood last night when he got the yellow card. Stupid twat was asking for the ref to give him a second one. And then why oh fucking why did he not move his arse onside in the last minute?! :mad: "No I'll just stand here and wait for the ball...."

*

Saw "highlights" of Arsenal. How in fuck did Rosicky manage to aim the ball at the goalie when he had the whole goal open in front of him?

[Captain Stu]

Saw "highlights" of Arsenal. How in fuck did Rosicky manage to aim the ball at the goalie when he had the whole goal open in front of him?

Same criticism to practically everyone else who had a chance... how did a player of Fabregas' quality round the keeper and then hit the side netting?

[boxshapedheart]

Same criticism to practically everyone else who had a chance... how did a player of Fabregas' quality round the keeper and then hit the side netting?
Abysmal. [/hansen]

They'll probably win 5-0 at the weekend now though.

[Renegades of funk 8]

the arsenal game was pretty funny last night but it would have been hilarious if vagner love scored the chance when he skinned gallas

sorry arsenal fans :D

[boxshapedheart]

Oh and Stu, you know how great your commentator was..

"Now Steven Gerrard... Now Steven Gerrard... NOW Steven Gerrard!!"


Well, I saw another bit of the match where he called Crouch a "Rampaging Super Spider". Farkin awesome I tell thee.

[Captain Stu]

Abysmal. [/hansen]

They'll probably win 5-0 at the weekend now though.

Arsenal are allowed to win 5-4... with all of West Ham's goals coming from Zamora. Ta.

Ooh that reminds me, predictions! :)

Saturday, 04 November 2006
Bolton v Wigan [BOLTON WIN]
Charlton v Man City [MAN CITY WIN]
Fulham v Everton [DRAW]
Liverpool v Reading [LIVERPOOL WIN... hopefully by a bucketload]
Man Utd v Portsmouth [MAN UTD WIN]
Newcastle v Sheff Utd [DRAW]
Watford v Middlesbrough [DRAW]

Sunday, 05 November 2006
Aston Villa v Blackburn [BLACKBURN WIN]
Tottenham v Chelsea [CHELSEA WIN]
West Ham v Arsenal [ARSENAL WIN]

[Captain Stu]

Well, I saw another bit of the match where he called Crouch a "Rampaging Super Spider". Farkin awesome I tell thee.

HAHAHAHA!!! :D

[Renegades of funk 8]

Saturday, 04 November 2006
Bolton v Wigan [BOLTON WIN]
Charlton v Man City [DRAW]
Fulham v Everton [DRAW]
Liverpool v Reading [LIVERPOOL WIN ]
Man Utd v Portsmouth [MAN UTD WIN]
Newcastle v Sheff Utd [NEWCASTLE WIN]
Watford v Middlesbrough [WATFORD WIN]

Sunday, 05 November 2006
Aston Villa v Blackburn [VILLA WIN]
Tottenham v Chelsea [CHELSEA WIN]
West Ham v Arsenal [ARSENAL WIN]

[Captain Stu]

Ahahahaha, check this photo... looks like the keeper is breakdancing! :D

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/reuters/20061101/21/2619256705.jpg

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

I'm going to the Spurs v Club Brugge game tonight. I can't wait.:D

It's gonna be my first live experiece of Europe with Spurs, which is abit pathetic really considering all you lot have witnessed your sides play in the CL year after year.

[Captain Stu]

Can't beat European nights, it's a whole other world in terms of atmosphere.

Enjoy it, man!

[Two-Bob Peeters]

http://bbs.foofighters.com/showthread.php?p=1711689&posted=1#post1711689

I'm going to the Spurs v Club Brugge game tonight. I can't wait.

It's gonna be my first live experiece of Europe with Spurs, which is abit pathetic really considering all you lot have witnessed your sides play in the CL year after year.

look out for the Flemish & Millwall flag in the Brugge end

[Chandler]

another excellent goal from Kakà. He's the best player in the world now ;)

[Captain Stu]

another excellent goal from Kakà. He's the best player in the world now ;)

Definately, his third was stunning.

[Renegades of funk 8]

I'm going to the Spurs v Club Brugge game tonight. I can't wait.:D

It's gonna be my first live experiece of Europe with Spurs, which is abit pathetic really considering all you lot have witnessed your sides play in the CL year after year.

and even i've seen fulham in the uefa cup, and even the millwall fans here have seen them in the uefa cup (probably) :D

[Bexster]

anyone played pe6 online yet, i have had a few games - it's quite good

though you might want to be careful, as this could happen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q4lgmPQ9wA :D
That is completely classic!!

I had a problem on PES5 online once, where I got a goal kick, and the attacking player coming back was on the bot path of the ball, so it knocked it off the spot for the goal kick and I couldn't take one. I was winning that match too :rolleyes:

Arsenal are shite. Doesn't matter if they played the best football of their lives, they still couldn't get it in the back of the net. And Wenger says he's proud of them :eek: WTF! GET IT SORTED YOU FUCKING MUPPETS :mad:

Least we didn't lose...

[Bexster]

another excellent goal from Kakà. He's the best player in the world now ;)
I wouldn't disagree with that at all.

Saturday, 04 November 2006
Bolton v Wigan [BOLTON]
Charlton v Man City [MAN CITY]
Fulham v Everton [EVERTON]
Liverpool v Reading [DRAW]
Man Utd v Portsmouth [MAN UTD] (Didn't they play each other a couple of weeks ago?????)
Newcastle v Sheff Utd [NEWCASTLE]
Watford v Middlesbrough [DRAW]

Sunday, 05 November 2006
Aston Villa v Blackburn [VILLA]
Tottenham v Chelsea [CHELSEA]
West Ham v Arsenal [ARSENAL] (Better had bloody score this time round :mad: )

[EvilElvis]

Saturday, 04 November 2006
Bolton v Wigan [BOLTON]
Charlton v Man City [DRAW]
Fulham v Everton [DRAW]
Liverpool v Reading [LIVERPOOL]
Man Utd v Portsmouth [MAN UTD]
Newcastle v Sheff Utd [DRAW]
Watford v Middlesbrough [DRAW]

Sunday, 05 November 2006
Aston Villa v Blackburn [VILLA]
Tottenham v Chelsea [CHELSEA]
West Ham v Arsenal [ARSENAL]

[sunnydalehighdropout]

Saturday, 04 November 2006
Bolton v Wigan [BOLTON]
Charlton v Man City [MAN CITY]
Fulham v Everton [EVERTON]
Liverpool v Reading [LIVERPOOL]
Man Utd v Portsmouth [DRAW]
Newcastle v Sheff Utd [NEWCASTLE]
Watford v Middlesbrough [MIDDLESBORO]

Sunday, 05 November 2006
Aston Villa v Blackburn [VILLA]
Tottenham v Chelsea [CHELSEA]
West Ham v Arsenal [ARSENAL]

[timesfooall]

Saturday, 04 November 2006
Bolton v Wigan [BOLTON]
Charlton v Man City [CHARLTON]
Fulham v Everton [EVERTON]
Liverpool v Reading [LIVERPOOL]
Man Utd v Portsmouth [MAN UTD]
Newcastle v Sheff Utd [NEWCASTLE]
Watford v Middlesbrough [MIDDLESBOROUGH]

Sunday, 05 November 2006
Aston Villa v Blackburn [VILLA]
Tottenham v Chelsea [DRAW]
West Ham v Arsenal [DRAW]

[EvilElvis]

Rangers 2-0 Maccabi Haifa


Rangers defied domestic form again in the Uefa Cup with a deserved victory over Maccabi Haifa as the Glasgow side went clear at the top of Group A.
Nacho Novo broke clear after only five minutes to gather a Kris Boyd flick and his low drive deflected off Alon Harazi and past goalkeeper Nir Davidovitch.

A Boyd penalty was saved by the goalkeeper immediately after the break.

And he turned a Barry Ferguson drive against the post before before being beaten by a Charlie Adam spot kick.

Rangers had been forced to make a late change to their starting line-up after Lionel Letizi suffered a back injury during the warm-up.

Allan McGregor's return to the side meant it was all-change at the heart of defence.

Julien Rodriguez dropped to the bench, while Sasa Papac was cup-tied.

So Brahim Hemdani dropped back to partner Karl Svensson, while Jeremy Clement returned to midfield and Dado Prso replaced Thomas Buffel up front.

Rangers' re-worked defence were under immediate pressure when Xavier Anderson just failed to get enough on his header from seven yards following a Gustavo Boccoli cross.

But the Glasgow side soon found their feet and took the lead when Kris Boyd headed on a long ball out of defence from Allan Hutton.

Novo sped clear and his low drive deflected off Harazi and wide of Davidovitch.

Rangers were now on top and Davidovitch was forced to turn a looping Boyd header over the crossbar.

Novo fired into the side netting from a tight angle after the goalkeeper had flapped at a high ball under pressure from Prso.

But Haifa worked their way into the game and Boccoli fired straight at McGregor from 12 yards following one of their trademark quick breaks.

Barry Ferguson finished the first half in pain with what appeared to be a rib injury.

But, although Gavin Rae warmed up during the break, Rangers' captain started the second 45 and was immediately involved in a fine passing move that led to the award of a penalty kick.

Prso had appeared to be fairly tackled by Harazi and justice was done when Davidovitch stretched out one hand to block Boyd's poorly-struck spot kick.

The goalkeeper came to Haifa's rescue again by turning Ferguson's powerful drive from the edge of the box on to the outside of the post.

Skilful Haifa looked dangerous throughout without troubling McGregor until the goalkeeper did well to palm clear a ferocious drive from Maor Melikson from 12 yards after 72 minutes.

The match was held up for several minutes by a one-man protest against the Israeli regime.*

But Rangers' momentum was not disturbed and they wrapped up the points when Ferguson was felled in the box and Adam made no mistake from the penalty spot.


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* He tried to handcuff himself to the goal posts. Twat

[EvilElvis]

More info on pitch invader (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6112176.stm)

[Novacane]

Someone should have kicked him in the face.

[Captain Stu]

Rangers smell.

[Captain Stu]

Just browsing around and I found a current world Club ranking list:

http://www.iffhs.de/?10f42e00fa2d17f73702fa3016e23c17f7370eff3702bb1c2 bbb6f28f5351e

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

33. (36.) Newcastle United FC England/4 174,0
34. (41.) Manchester United FC England/4 173,0

:cool:

[Captain Stu]

Re: the points...

I was reading how they work it out. You get points for domestic league and senior cup (in our case the FA cup) with league points worth 3 times more than cup. You have a country weighting depending on the strength of the league. The continental cup competitions also have points allocated to them with the European and South American competitions having a higher points value than the other ones.

Seville are top because they won the UEFA cup and so got a shit load of points. Barcelona despite winning the Champions league aren't top because I presume they didn't win as many games on there way to the final. Draws don't get as many points.

The barcodes are above Man Utd because they have played a lot of European games with the Inter Toto cup and the Uefa cup compared to United being seeded straight into the group stages this year and knocked out at the group stage last year.

That's from a guy off a Liverpool board.

1. (1.) Sevilla FC (290)
2. (2.) FC Barcelona (270)
3. (4.) Liverpool (267) :cool:
4. (3.) Milan AC (266)
5. (7.) FC Rapid Bucureşti (264)
5. (9.) FC Internazionale Milano (264)
7. (5.) Arsenal (252)
8. (8.) AS Roma (247)
9. (9.) Olympique Lyonnais (244)
9. (5.) Olympique de Marseille (244)

[Bexster]

So you would presumably get more points from the UEFA cup anyway because there are more knock-out stages where you have to win to progress, or at least, there used to be? I remember Barca did draw a few games last campaign, but not that many.

And I liked the barcodes :cool:

[Captain Stu]

So you would presumably get more points from the UEFA cup anyway because there are more knock-out stages where you have to win to progress, or at least, there used to be? I remember Barca did draw a few games last campaign, but not that many.

And I liked the barcodes :cool:

Something like that, yeah.

[Captain Stu]

... and where are these barcodes? :confused:

[Bexster]

... and where are these barcodes? :confused:
In the quote about the rankings system, the Liverpool fan refers to Newcastle as the Barcodes.

[Captain Stu]

In the quote about the rankings system, the Liverpool fan refers to Newcastle as the Barcodes.

Aaahhhhhh right, forgive my feeble brain.

[Bexster]

Aaahhhhhh right, forgive my feeble brain.
S'ok. It's still early on a friday morning. I understand.

[Wish_Master2100]

Ookie

Saturday, 04 November 2006
Bolton v Wigan
Charlton v ManCity [MANCITY]
Fulham v Everton [EVERTON]
Liverpool v Reading [LIVERPOOL WIN ]
Man Utd v Portsmouth [MAN UTD WIN]
Newcastle v Sheff Utd [NEWCASTLE WIN]
Watford v Middlesbrough

Sunday, 05 November 2006
Aston Villa v Blackburn [VILLA WIN]
Tottenham v Chelsea [CHELSEA WIN]
West Ham v Arsenal [ARSENAL WIN]


Wish_Master2100


[B]Saturday, 04 November 2006
Bolton v Wigan [BOLTON WIN]
Charlton v ManCity [[B]DRAW]
Fulham v Everton [EVERTON]
Liverpool v Reading [LIVERPOOL WIN ]
Man Utd v Portsmouth [MAN UTD WIN]
Newcastle v Sheff Utd [NEWCASTLE WIN]
Watford v Middlesbrough [WATFORD WIN]

Sunday, 05 November 2006
Aston Villa v Blackburn [VILLA WIN]
Tottenham v Chelsea [CHELSEA WIN]
West Ham v Arsenal [ARSENAL WIN]

[EvilElvis]

Rangers smell.


Die! You die and go to hell! Go to hell and marry a dirty greasy spanish waiter who will serve you salmonella on toast every day called Luis Garcia. :D

[Bexster]

Die! You die and go to hell! Go to hell and marry a dirty greasy spanish waiter who will serve you salmonella on toast every day called Luis Garcia. :D
And one who'll sell Gerrard to the lowest bidder :D

[EvilElvis]

And one who'll sell Gerrard to the lowest bidder :D

That means Charlton may have a chance! :eek:

[Bexster]

That means Charlton may have a chance! :eek:
Oooo, go Charlton :D

Actually, as a share holder in Exeter City Football Club, I may advise a bid for Mr. Gerrard under these circumstances. We can offer exactly £3.62, and a nice peugeot.

[EvilElvis]

Oooo, go Charlton :D

Actually, as a share holder in Exeter City Football Club, I may advise a bid for Mr. Gerrard under these circumstances. We can offer exactly £3.62, and a nice peugeot.


As a fan of Dumbarton we can offer him any girl from the town of his choice - chances are she's not a virgin and that she's probably on smack.

[Bexster]

As a fan of Dumbarton we can offer him any girl from the town of his choice - chances are she's not a virgin and that she's probably on smack.
See, that's a far more attractive deal.

[EvilElvis]

See, that's a far more attractive deal.


The girls are also likely to be either pregnant or already have a baby or two!

[boxshapedheart]

Saturday, 04 November 2006
Bolton v Wigan [BOLTON]
Charlton v Man City [MAN CITY]
Fulham v Everton [DRAW]
Liverpool v Reading [LIVERPOOL]
Man Utd v Portsmouth [MAN UTD]
Newcastle v Sheff Utd [NEWCASTLE]
Watford v Middlesbrough [DRAW]

Sunday, 05 November 2006
Aston Villa v Blackburn [VILLA]
Tottenham v Chelsea [CHELSEA]
West Ham v Arsenal [ARSENAL]

[weeniebeenie]

As a fan of Dumbarton we can offer him any girl from the town of his choice - chances are she's not a virgin and that she's probably on smack.

I'm fairly sure that describes his present girlfriend.

[rob3000]

I'm fairly sure that describes his present girlfriend.
Damn you beat me to it.:mad:

[Bexster]

I'm fairly sure that describes his present girlfriend.
Now that's just mean.

Tee hee

[EvilElvis]

I'm fairly sure that describes his present girlfriend.


Especially with the rumours doing the rounds about her...

[Bud]

hahahahahahahahaha


Newcastle.


I sure hope they get relegated.

[danlalala]

hahahahahahahahaha


Newcastle.


I sure hope they get relegated.
Me too. Small time team.

[Renegades of funk 8]

hahahahahahahahaha


Newcastle.


I sure hope they get relegated.

yes, it will be funny, and boro, then the furthest north i'll have to go will be yorkshire :D

[EvilElvis]

Newcastle are pondering a loan move for Real Madrid's Italy striker Antonio Cassano, who has fallen out with coach Fabio Capello. Magpies boss Glenn Roeder also wants Manchester City defender Sylvain Distin. (News of the World, Sunday Mirror)

But Roeder also has Barcelona's ex-Chelsea striker Eidur Gudjohnsen in his sights and is poised to make a bid during January's transfer window. (The People)

Barcelona will make a £25 million bid for Chelsea's England midfielder Frank Lampard at the end of the season (Sunday Mirror)


Bayern Munich would want either John O'Shea or Wes Brown in part-exchange for any Manchester United move for Owen Hargreaves. (Sunday Mirror)

Italian club Torino are keen on signing Middlesbrough forward Massimo Maccarone, who has made just two appearances for Riverside boss Gareth Southgate this season. (News of the World)

Coventry boss Micky Adams is eyeing Colchester's highly-rated midfielder Kemal Izzet. (News of the World)

Barnsley boss Andy Ritchie is planning a double swoop for Nicky Barmby and Chris Morgan. (People)

Watford are keen to land Boro's Ray Parlour, who is near full fitness from a knee problem. (People)


Blackburn boss Mark Hughes wants Liverpool left-back Stephen Warnock in a cash-plus-player deal. (People)


OTHER GOSSIP
Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill has shunned a new long-term contract because he feels it's not in the best interests of the club to commit themselves to a lengthy deal. (Various)

Glenn Hoddle could be Peter Taylor's replacement at Crystal Palace if the Eagles boss is sacked by chairman Simon Jordan (Sunday Mirror).

Former Charlton boss Alan Curbishley could make his return to management at a top European club, according to his agent Phil Smith (News of the World)

Manchester United assistant boss Carlos Queiroz has made the shortlist for the £1m-a-year job in charge of the USA national team. (News of the World)


AND FINALLY...
West Ham striker Dean Ashton is fighting his way back to fitness by using hydrotherapy sessions at a special swimming pool in Manchester. (The People)

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Yes, let's bring in more crap strikers and completely ignore the defence you stupid clueless twattish cunting bastards.

Dystin is not the answer, you blind fucking cabbage.

[Jamie]

Bayern Munich would want either John O'Shea or Wes Brown in part-exchange for any Manchester United move for Owen Hargreaves. (Sunday Mirror)


Manchester United assistant boss Carlos Queiroz has made the shortlist for the £1m-a-year job in charge of the USA national team. (News of the World)

I'm giving both of these my full backing

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Ahaha, Wenger v Pardew :cool:

[rob3000]

Ahaha, Wenger v Pardew :cool:
Wenger not accepting a handshake? madness!

[Novacane]

Dundee Utd 2 - 1 Rangers.

10 mins to go :)

[EvilElvis]

Dundee Utd 2 - 1 Rangers.

10 mins to go :)

We are shit, but my god you lot are depressing to watch.

[Novacane]

We are shit, but my god you lot are depressing to watch.

Depressing.....as in 13 points clear of Hearts :)

[EvilElvis]

The Pardew Wenger fistcuffs was funny, having said that, it was a stonewall penalty Arsenal were denied when Helb's legs were taken away from him.


Depressing.....as in 13 points clear of Hearts :)

And need Hearts players to score your goals for you...


Why did I think you were a Utd fan?! :confused:

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

GET THE FUCK IN!!

Hoodoo is finally over!

[EvilElvis]

GET THE FUCK IN!!

Hoodoo is finally over!

Chelski scum lost?!

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

Chelski scum lost?!

Yup 2-1!!!!!

I'm so happy.:D

[rob3000]

Great game! Didn't think they'd throw that 1-0 lead away...

[Ian Mc]

Yes, let's bring in more crap strikers and completely ignore the defence you stupid clueless twattish cunting bastards.

Dystin is not the answer, you blind fucking cabbage.

So who is going to score the goals for us then?? Albert Luque? Fat chance!

It's depressing when a guy from Man Utd is our only hope!
I'd take Distin right about now!

[EvilElvis]

All this season has proven is that Newcastle relied to heavily on Shearer for the past 10 years and that in concludes that one man teams don't win the Premiership.

[Ian Mc]

All this season has proven is that Newcastle relied to heavily on Shearer for the past 10 years and that in concludes that one man teams don't win the Premiership.

I do see where you're coming from...and without causing offence, that's bullshit!
Shearers first season with us saw us finish second in the table and he missed a lot of that season with two injuries, Les Ferdinand also helped out then.
Shearer spent a total of over two seasons out with major injuries and we still earned respectable league finishes.

However, yes, we did relly heavily on Shearer and most of the time he didn't get the help that he needed, but to be honest wouldn't any team relly heavily on a Striker like him?

[EvilElvis]

However, yes, we did relly heavily on Shearer and most of the time he didn't get the help that he needed, but to be honest wouldn't any team relly heavily on a Striker like him?

I never understood why Newcastle didn't sign a striker as sson as Shearer announced his retirement so that he could spend at least a year learning from him in training every day.

Rossi is a good striker - with no major experience and who is heading back to Old Trafford in Jan

Luque - Has done nothing since he joined

Ameobi - Has blown hot and cold too often.

I only saw the hightlights of the game last night - Couldn't nderstand why Newcastle played given the European game on thursday - but the service the left Rossi was shocking - I can't even recall Newcastle really testing the Sheff Utd goalie - aside from the chip which hit the bar and even then, that was a cross cum shot.

[Ian Mc]

Sheffield United deserved the three points, no doubt about it!
The reason we played on Saturday instead of putting it back was because our board would rather put the fitness of players at stake and bring in a few grand from TV money instead of giving them an extra days rest........I'm not going to use that as an excuse though.

To be honest, when Shearer announced his retirement, we didn't have much of a clue about who the manager was going to be and Michael Owen was expected to be fit. It's easy to forget that he's still apart of our roster.
I don't think the board were backing Roeder too well during the summer and then panic bought before the transfer window closed...Martins, give him time, could be alright, but ten million? I don't think so.....and he's not the out and out striker that is needed.

What I don't get is how we can be so inconsistent performance wise, we have played well this season, but there seems to be a lack of balance to the team. I still don't understand why Nicky Butt is playing for us never mind starting games, especially not along side Parker, why get rid of Bowyer and bring Butt back?
And Emre is so hot and cold...he's a typical Newcastle player!

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

When Shearer announced his retirement we bought Owen.

Luque has done nothing because he's never been given the chance to.

[weeniebeenie]

Do Newcastle have a "first refusal" on Woodgate if he leaves Real Madrid? He might be worth buying in the summer if he can stay fit for this season.

[Ian Mc]

Woodgate turned us down to go to Boro on loan.
Luque has been given chances, he just ballsed most of them up, he doesn't have the right attitude.

[danlalala]

Woodgate turned us down to go to Boro on loan.
Luque has been given chances, he just ballsed most of them up, he doesn't have the right attitude.
Hometown club or not, the professional opinion of Newcastle must be really low if he chose to go to Middlesborough instead.

Luque is a proven team goalscorer in Spain, i think he needs a 10-15 match straight run in the team to fully integrate himself. I like Luque and think he can do the job.

[EvilElvis]

When Shearer announced his retirement we bought Owen.



Shit! I forgot you had him!


But Owen was a good foil for Shearer - he had pace - which Shearer lacked whereas Shearer is good with ariel challenges and holding the ball up unlike Owen.

[Hmmm Noodle Soup]

Great game! Didn't think they'd throw that 1-0 lead away...

Neither did I to be honest. As soon as they scored I thought it was over like it usually is with against them.

Dawson's goal came out of nothing and we looked a different team from then on. We seemed to grow in more belief and I started to believe we could win the game.

The whole defence was awesome today. King and Dawson were like a wall and I was particularly impressed with Chimbonda today. Keane probably edged it for MOM, he stood up when needed and led the fight back. I'm loving Berbatov, the guy just oozes class and its just about him adapting to the PL.

We rode our luck a few times but who cares....finally beaten Chelski.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Luque has been given chances, he just ballsed most of them up, he doesn't have the right attitude.

No he really hasn't. He's either been thrown on for the last ten minutes in a losing team or gets one start every few months.

While playing for the reserves he's looked incredibly good, he needs an actual run of games.

Roeder also needs to realise Luque isn't a striker - he plays off the striker and likes to drift wide. If you play him upfront on his own then of course he's going to struggle.

Unfortunately Roeder clearly has his favourites within the squad who will play whenever fit. For whatever reason he dislikes Steven Taylor, Peter Ramage, James Milner and Albert Luque. If he's able to drop these players then he will.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Shit! I forgot you had him!


But Owen was a good foil for Shearer - he had pace - which Shearer lacked whereas Shearer is good with ariel challenges and holding the ball up unlike Owen.

Our tactics are to blame for our striker's ineffectivness. Roeder is an idiot.

He has our players lumping the ball up field to our strikers, regardless of who they are. Owen (5'8), Rossi (5'9) and Martins (5'6) are not going to be able to get on the end of long balls. They need it played to their feet.

Ameobi is the only player we have capable of playing like that, and he's had a hip injury for over a season now. Sibierski can win the ball, unfortunately the only thing he can do with it is head it wildly up into the air. He's useless.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Hometown club or not, the professional opinion of Newcastle must be really low if he chose to go to Middlesborough instead.

Luque is a proven team goalscorer in Spain, i think he needs a 10-15 match straight run in the team to fully integrate himself. I like Luque and think he can do the job.

Actually he's not. Luque is a proven assist-man who scores about once every 3 or 4 games at the most. He's not an outandout striker, and never has been.

At his best fr both Spain and Depor he either plays just off the striker, drifting around, or high on the left wing.

[friartuck]

Newcastle's only real problem is they have a crap manager.

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Newcastle's only real problem is they have a crap manager.

WRONG.

Newcastle's only real problem is a chairman who sucks money out of the club, buys and sells players without the manager's say, and continuously hires awful managers.

Not to mention he's a fat bastard who's ignorance of the football world is shocking.

It's not Roeder's fault he's a completely tactically incompetent fool - it's Freddy Shepard's fault that Roeder's in charge in the first place.

[friartuck]

WRONG.

Newcastle's only real problem is a chairman who sucks money out of the club, buys and sells players without the manager's say, and continuously hires awful managers.

Not to mention he's a fat bastard who's ignorance of the football world is shocking.

It's not Roeder's fault he's a completely tactically incompetent fool - it's Freddy Shepard's fault that Roeder's in charge in the first place.

Yes I guess you're right, definitely about Shepherd not having a clue about managers. Although I don't think Newcastle are regarded as a "selling" club. They generally hold on to their assets.

[Captain Stu]

Roeder may be a lot of things... but a football manager sure ain't one of them. :D

Now, my thoughts on the weekends football...

1. Dirk, I love you. You're scoring the goals we've been missing for years and for that, I thank you. Good win for us, we're almost "on a roll". :eek:

2. United, jammy cunts, every fucking result around them has gone their cunting way. Chelsea, Bolton and Arsenal ALL lost. :mad:

3. RE: Chelski losing... HAHAHAHAHAHA! Now just to lose but to have a legit goal disallowed and Terry questionably sent off!! :D

4. Big fat sweaty LOLZ at Wenger, he definately came off looking like the cunt. I don't blame Pards for celebrating, he's been having a dire time lately, his team pulls off a massive victory and damn right he should be allowed to celebrate. If we disallow that shit, why bother even watching footie at all?

[Zippy Ate My Drumkit]

Yes I guess you're right, definitely about Shepherd not having a clue about managers. Although I don't think Newcastle are regarded as a "selling" club. They generally hold on to their assets.

Best example was Gary Speed. Bobby Robson turned up to work one day to find that Gary Speed was playing for Bolton.

Bobby wanted to buy Miguel (Portuguese right back at Sporting I believe) and James Beattie. Sheppard goes out and buys Stephen Carr and Patrick Kluivert.

Roeder wanted to sign Huth, Sheppard wanted to sign Woodgate, so we lost out on both.

[Jamie]

3. RE: Chelski losing... HAHAHAHAHAHA! Now just to lose but to have a legit goal disallowed and Terry questionably sent off!! :D
The problem there though is that Mourinho now has an "excuse". It'd be so much sweeter if they lost with no dodgy referee decisions

[Captain Stu]

Newcastle ain't gonna do anything until Sheppard fucks off.

[Renegades of funk 8]

anyone see the coin incident with claus jensen and van persie, claus gets hit in the face and just sort of gets on with it, van persie gets hit in the back of the head and goes down like he was shot - either way though i hope the idiots who threw the coins are banned

[Captain Stu]

anyone see the coin incident with claus jensen and van persie, claus gets hit in the face and just sort of gets on with it, van persie gets hit in the back of the head and goes down like he was shot - either way though i hope the idiots who threw the coins are banned

Van Persie took a dive? NOOOOOO! NEVER!!!! :D

But yeah, the FA are looking into both incidents apparently... whether they actually catch anyone is an entirely different matter.

[Renegades of funk 8]

Van Persie took a dive? NOOOOOO! NEVER!!!! :D

But yeah, the FA are looking into both incidents apparently... whether they actually catch anyone is an entirely different matter.

yea but at least everton lost :D

[Captain Stu]

yea but at least everton lost :D

I know, I could have kissed Jensen on his big bald ugly head, I actually get pleasure from seeing the blue and white shite lose. :)

[Captain Stu]

Tell you what, I am totally eating my words right now over Kuyt. I was very sceptical when we signed him but fark me, he's proving to be a complete player and he works well alongside whoever he's partnered with.

Another good signing, Rafa. :)

If our form carries on like this, I don't see why we can't take third. The game against Arsenal at the weekend is gonna be vital for both sides.

[Renegades of funk 8]

just been looking at the table, i didn't realise how tight the top half is, fulham are only 4 points of third :)

[Captain Stu]

just been looking at the table, i didn't realise how tight the top half is, fulham are only 4 points of third :)

It's getting good up there now, in fact it's pretty tight all along the table - there seems to be pockets forming where several teams can jump several places if results go their way.

[boxshapedheart]

All I have to say about this weekend is YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY!

Keep it up lads. :D

[Captain Stu]

*pokes Sarah in the eyes*

[boxshapedheart]

*pokes Sarah in the eyes*
:p

In further detail:

- Chelsea - HAH! Come on you Lily Whites! Gotta say I really thought Robben's shot was heading right for the goal in the closing minutes and was mighty pleased to see it bounce off the post. :eek:
- haha at Chelsea defender (Ferreira?) when Keane's stepovers made him fall on his arse.

- West Ham's goal yesterday was class. From Etherington battling, through the 1-2 with Sheringham to the goal. Nice.
- I thought Arse should have had the penalty though.

- Well happy with our win, good performance. Vidic you beauty.

[Captain Stu]

- haha at Chelsea defender (Ferreira?) when Keane's stepovers made him fall on his arse.

Even better was when someone played a massive long ball into the box and Keane just ran in front of Bouhlarouz (sp?) and chested the ball out of his way.

Keane and Lennon looked absolutely fantastic yesterday, good to see Lennon firing on all cylinders from an England P.O.V. :)

- West Ham's goal yesterday was class. From Etherington battling, through the 1-2 with Sheringham to the goal. Nice.
- I thought Arse should have had the penalty though.

Etherington had a good one, which I like to see, I've been a fan of his since Spurs plucked him and Davies from Peterborough but he flits in and out of games too much for me. When he's on, he's awesome, but when he's off - he may as well be dead and buried.

And that was a definate penalty, no questions asked whatsoever. Which part of kicking someone squaa in the ankle in the box and making no contact with the ball whatsoever is a legit tackle? :confused:

[timesfooall]

Lolz at Wenger and Mouriniho!!! :D

West Ham deserved win, they wanted it more than Arsenal. Spector did slightly touch the ball before hacking down Hleb but after looking on the virtual thing on Sky the ref had 5 players between him and the ball, bad positioning but the actino was fast moving.

[Captain Stu]

I don't rate Spector at all.

On paper, I think Wham (name nicked off Sarah :D) have got almost a really decent team:

Green, Konchesky, Ferdinand, Etherington, Reo-Coker, Mascherano, Bennayoun, Harewood/Ashton and Zamora.

I think if they got a good, experienced central-defender to partner Ferdinand (like how Rio Turdinhand benefited heaps from playing with Radebe) and a right-back, they'd be pretty sorted. They have a good attacking line-up, just need a bit of defensive stability.

[timesfooall]

Take it you mean West Ham, but yeah they have a sound side just definetly think the arrival of the Argies upset them. I'm a big fan of Reo-Coker, shame England seem to have too many cent mid players.